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(Date Posted:11/14/2011 10:38 PM)
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Obama and Co.'s plan to disarm the American public is one of his many building blocks in his transformation of America. He has to build his base to birth an outcry of the citizens of the future United Socialist States of America to ban all weapons.

Obama and Co.'s plan to kill the middle class is in play. His executive orders and outright ignoring federal law is building his base who is just waiting for his next directional edict.

He has the Department of Justice imposing regulations on gun makers, sellers, and lawful owners. Yes, Holder is in on the plan; as well as Clinton in the State Department. However, it seems that certain members of Congress and American citizens are not gung-ho on his omnipotent vision for all of us.

The Washington Post had an article in April of this year. It was headlined as an introduction to the White House gun policy adviser Steve Croley. So, you might not have read it to the bottom of the article.

Over a barrel? Meet White House gun policy adviser Steve Croley
By Jason Horowitz, Published: April 11, 2011

"On March 30, the 30th anniversary of the assassination attempt on President Ronald Reagan, Jim Brady, who sustained a debilitating head wound in the attack, and his wife, Sarah, came to Capitol Hill to push for a ban on the controversial “large magazines.” Brady, for whom the law requiring background checks on handgun purchasers is named, then met with White House press secretary Jay Carney. During the meeting, President Obama dropped in and, according to Sarah Brady, brought up the issue of gun control, “to fill us in that it was very much on his agenda,” she said.

“I just want you to know that we are working on it,” Brady recalled the president telling them. “We have to go through a few processes, but under the radar.”

In the meeting, she said, Obama discussed how records get into the system and what can be done about firearms retailers. Her husband specifically brought up the proposed ban on large magazine clips, and she noted that even former vice president Dick Cheney had suggested that some restrictions on the clips might make sense.

“He just laughed,” Sarah Brady said approvingly of the president. Both she and her husband, she emphasized, had absolute confidence that the president was committed to regulation."

President Obama brought up the issue of gun control, “to fill us in that it was very much on his agenda,” “I just want you to know that we are working on it,” “We have to go through a few processes, but under the radar.”

President Bush had tried Project GunRunner in coordination with the Mexican government to catch the strawbuyers and cartel members. It was actually to deal with the increasing growth of violence from the drug cartels and terrorists coming across the southern border. When they saw it wasn't working, Bush and the Mexican government shut it down.

Yes, under Obama and Co. Project GunRunner was revived and working again under the radar of the American public. This time it was without coordination with the Mexican government. And it's purpose wasn't to catch the strawbuyers and cartel members. 

So far his MSM favorites had followed his lead to blame gun laws instead of the actual murderer in the Tuscon shootings. They had managed to weave the propaganda of guns going into Mexico into their naratives. Heck, he even had an added bonus of the MSM going after Palin again.

But there was the murder of Border Patrol agent Brian Terry’s last December. His family wasn't being quiet about it. And then there were some ATF agents who didn't care to play along with the prescribed program either. Plus, there was that oversight investigation from the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee that was getting some publicity fueled by whistleblowing ATF agents, bloggers and the net.

It even seemed that some of these bloggers were feeding information to the Congress. Guess that line about " ... it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations" just didn't work to disparage them.

DoJ AG Holder has stalled Congress so far but he is slipping. He has moved and promoted people under him, and in other agencies responsible to the DoJ, who might know a little too much if they have to testify before Congress. One was even sent to the State department and then to the embassy in Iraq. Wonder if DoJ AG Holder hears that bus behind as it seems to be getting ready to have him slip right under it?

The boots on the ground ATF agents are protesting against the law being broken. ATF agents who are not playing along are being moved. Some have been placed in danger with their personal information 'accidentally' made public; but there's no rationale to lead to suspecting that cartel members might locate them.
Clean Up ATF

However, there are still people who are keeping this in the public arena, even if the MSM chooses to ignore what will be only one of Obama and Co's biggest scandals. This one has caused, and is the cause of many more, people losing their lives.

Worse Than Gunwalker? State Dept. Allegedly Sold Guns to Zetas July 22, 2011

Sipsey Street Irregulars

'Project Gunwalker'



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(Date Posted:03/26/2012 8:58 PM)

More proof that drug kingpins were paid FBI informants

One of the strongest pieces of evidence proving that the Fast and Furious operation conducted by the ATF and the Department of Justice was not a sting operation at all but a scheme by which to justify more gun control laws is the fact that the supposed 'Mexican drug kingpins' targeted by the Feds turned out to be paid FBI informants.

There is now more proof today that these drug lords were cooperating with and working for the federal government.

In documents obtained over the weekend by the Times/Tribune, an incident is described concerning one Manuel Fabian Celis-Acosta, a Mexican criminal with a known history of drugs and gun smuggling.

How, then, could a scheme such as Fast and Furious be described as a 'sting operation' when the very suspects it was designed to 'catch' were working for our own government,0,3334424.story

Drug lords targeted by Fast and Furious were FBI informants

Federal agents released alleged gun trafficker Manuel Fabian Celis-Acosta to help them find two Mexican drug lords. But the two were secret FBI informants, emails show.

By Richard A. Serrano, Washington Bureau

5:39 PM PDT, March 21, 2012

Reporting from Washington

When the ATF made alleged gun trafficker Manuel Fabian Celis-Acosta its primary target in the ill-fated Fast and Furious investigation, it hoped he would lead the agency to two associates who were Mexican drug cartel members. The ATF even questioned and released him knowing that he was wanted by the Drug Enforcement Administration.

But those two drug lords were secretly serving as informants for the FBI along the Southwest border, newly obtained internal emails show. Had Celis-Acosta simply been held when he was arrested by theBureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives in May 2010, the investigation that led to the loss of hundreds of illegal guns and may have contributed to the death of a Border Patrol agent could have been closed early.

Documents obtained by the Los Angeles Times/Tribune Washington Bureau show that as far back as December 2009 — five months before Celis-Acosta was detained and released at the border in a car carrying 74 live rounds of ammunition — ATF and DEA agents learned by chance that they were separately investigating the same man in the Arizona and Mexico border region.

ATF agents had placed a secret pole camera outside his Phoenix home to track his movements, and separately the DEA was operating a "wire room" to monitor live wiretap intercepts to follow him.

In May 2010, Celis-Acosta was briefly detained at the border in Lukeville, Ariz., and then released by Hope MacAllister, the chief ATF investigator on Fast and Furious, after he promised to cooperate with her.

The ATF had hoped he would lead them to two Mexican cartel members. But records show that after Celis-Acosta finally was arrested in February 2011, the ATF learned to its surprise that the two cartel members were secret FBI informants.

Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Vista), chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, and Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa) are investigating Fast and Furious, which allowed illegal gun purchases in Arizona in hopes of tracking the weapons to Mexican drug cartel leaders. In a confidential memo to Republican committee members, Issa and Grassley said the ATF should have known the cartel members were informants and immediately shut down Fast and Furious.

"This means the entire goal of Fast and Furious — to target these two individuals and bring them to justice — was a failure," they wrote. The "lack of follow-through" by the various agencies, they said, typified "the serious management failures that occurred throughout all levels during Fast and Furious."

James Needles, a top ATF official in Arizona, told congressional investigators last year that it was very frustrating and a "major disappointment" to learn too late about the informants.

ATF officials declined to comment about the investigations because they are continuing.

But Adrian P. Fontes, a Phoenix attorney representing Celis-Acosta, who has pleaded not guilty, said he was concerned the federal agencies purposely did not share information.

"When one hand is not talking to the other, perhaps somebody is hiding something," he said. "Was this intentional?"

Emails and other records show that once the ATF and DEA realized they were both investigating Celis-Acosta, officials from both agencies met in December 2009 at the DEA field office in Phoenix.

It is unclear, however, whether MacAllister later told the DEA that she released Celis-Acosta in May 2010 and that he was headed into Mexico.

Her boss, David J. Voth, the ATF's group supervisor for Fast and Furious, told committee investigators that the ATF realized the Sinaloa cartel members were "national security assets," or FBI informants, only after Celis-Acosta was rearrested. He identified the informants as two brothers, and said, "We first learned when we went back and sorted out the facts."

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(Date Posted:03/26/2012 9:03 PM)

House memo: Entire Fast and Furious mission was a failure

Mexican cartel suspects targeted in the troubled gun-trafficking probe known as Operation Fast and Furious were actually working as FBI informants at the time, according to a congressional memo that describes the case's mission as a "failure."

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has acknowledged that guns were allowed into the hands of Mexican criminals for more than a year in the hope of catching "big fish."

The memorandum from staffers with the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform says the FBI and Drug Enforcement Administration were investigating a drug-trafficking organization and had identified cartel associates a year before the ATF even learned who they were. At some point before the ATF's Fast and Furious investigation progressed — congressional investigators don't know when — the cartel members became FBI informants.

"These were the 'big fish,'" says the memo, written on behalf of Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., and Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa. "DEA and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) had jointly opened a separate investigation targeting these two cartel associates….Yet, ATF spent the next year engaging in the reckless tactics of Fast and Furious in attempting to identify them."

According to Issa and Grassley, the cartel suspects, whose names were not released, were regarded by FBI as "national-security assets." One pleaded guilty to a minor offense. The other was not charged. "Both became FBI informants and are now considered unindictable," the memo says. "This means that the entire goal of Fast and Furious -- to target these two individuals and bring them to justice — was a failure."

Representatives with the Justice Department and its subagencies declined to comment.

In an emailed statement, Rep. Elijah Cummings of Maryland, ranking Democrat on the Oversight committee, disputed GOP conclusions and stressed that Issa "has repeatedly made unsubstantiated allegations against law- enforcement agencies" while investigating Fast and Furious. Cummings agreed that the ATF was hampered by communication breakdowns, but he rejected implications that other agencies had similar failures.

Fast and Furious was launched by the ATF in November 2009. At the same time, the memo says, FBI and DEA agents who were conducting a narcotics investigation identified a suspected ringleader of the gun-trafficking organization, Manuel Celis-Acosta. According to federal records, DEA supervisors shared their discovery with ATF agents, but the suspect was not arrested until a year later, when guns from Fast and Furious were linked to the murder of U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry.

At that point, the memo says, Celis-Acosta gave names of his Sinaloa cartel associates to ATF agents, who learned that they already were working for the FBI. The associates are not identified in the congressional memo.

The overlap reflects the spiderweb nature of trafficking organizations in Arizona and the labyrinth of law-enforcement agencies pursuing them.

Celis-Acosta was indicted by a federal grand jury in January 2011 with 19 other suspects on charges related to firearms and marijuana trafficking, conspiracy and money laundering. He is awaiting trial in U.S. District Court

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(Date Posted:03/26/2012 9:06 PM)

Critical Mass: The FBI's Poster Boys for Murderous Paid Confidential Informants Outed for Everybody -- even the deliberately near-sighted John Boehner -- to See.

Operation Fast and Furious investigation escalates as ATF, FBI disconnect revealed.
By William La Jeunesse
The investigation of Operation Fast and Furious escalated this past week as Fox News learned a leak at the Justice Department is providing documents to the Congressional investigators.
The scope of investigation also includes the Federal Bureau of Investigation, which records show failed to tell ATF its own confidential informants were helping finance the illegal gun purchases.
Eduardo and Jesus A. Miramontes-Varela, Mexican nationals born in Juarez worked for the Sinaloa Cartel when they became informants for the FBI in 2009, according to sources.
Previously, the brothers, ages 36 and 37, worked as informants for police in Miami, the U.S. Marshall's Service, and the DEA.
According to DEA and Congressional reports, the two men were the primary cartel contacts used to finance the illegal gun trafficking ring. Jim Needles, the assistant Agent in Charge of the Phoenix ATF office estimated the brothers spent $250,000 on guns tracked by his agency while conducting Operation Fast and Furious. Needles called it “a disappointment” the FBI didn’t bother to tell his agency of the connection.
“You are getting at the very basis of this investigation,” Senator Charles Grassley said Friday.
“But I have to wait till we have all the information before we bring down the hammer.”
Grassley first revealed in September 2011 the FBI, knew, but failed to tell the ATF, it’s informants were part of the gun trafficking ring. Then in February, Grassley called them “the big fish” ATF had been looking for the entire time.
Both the FBI and DEA know the Miramontes brothers’ role and identity, but declined to tell the ATF during a “deconfliction” meeting Dec. 15, 2009. Nor did either agency speak up at any of the joint meetings all three agencies attended of the Southwest Border Initiative. The DEA and ATF’s Group 7 shared the same floor of the same building and the same ‘wire room’ to listen to wiretaps of suspects.
Eventually and under pressure, the FBI invited top ATF officials to a classified briefing in El Paso in the late summer of 2010 and described the Eduardo and Jesus Miramontes as "a national security assets". The two men were "off limits, untouchable and indictable" said a source familiar with the briefing.
Asked a detailed set of questions regarding the Miramontes brothers role and payment as confidential informants, the FBI released this statement Friday, “There is a pending investigation and we cannot provide additional information even when there is inaccurate information being reported.”
Also this week, two damaging documents became public. One, a ATF ROI (Report of Investigation) from May 2010 shows that Manuel Celis-Acosta, ringleader of the illegal gun buyers, was stopped at a border checkpoint in Arizona with 74 rounds of ammunition, but ATF agents released him.
On Thursday, Congressman Darrell Issa and Grassley released a list of ROI’s that show ATF agents had evidence Acosta was trafficking weapons and one of his buyers, Uriel Patino, was lying on federal forms, but neither was arrested.
Late Friday, Department of Justice Assistant Attorney General Ron Weich warned Issa, “We are deeply disturbed that the sensitive law enforcement information…has entered the public realm.”
He said it is impeding the DOJ’s prosecution of current criminal cases arising from Fast and Furious.
A Congressional spokesperson for Issa made no apologies, saying the documents being leaked to the committee “are precisely what the Justice Department is hiding and what congressional investigators are seeking – basic information about who knew what when about Fast and Furious.”
Is it becoming clearer? Black operations are compartmentalized. The only thing that is required is the ability to deflect interest from other agencies and supervisors within a given agency who might be meddlesome. "National security" goes a long way. What is also required are back-channel means of communication and control. Can you say from "old friends" like the State Department's Kevin O'Reilly serving on the National Security Council and "Gunwalker Bill" Newell in Phoenix? I knew you could. And remember the one thing in Phoenix which would be required would be someone in control who could issue the proper orders and put them in a nice legal-looking frame -- Janet Napolitano's lickspittle, anti-gun zealot Dennis K. Burke. Personnel is policy.

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(Date Posted:06/07/2012 11:03 PM)

GOP Rep. Darrell Issa has vowed to hold Holder in contempt of Congress for failing to respond to the subpoena. Holder has testified he has given congressional investigators the requisite information. Issa, chairman of the chamber’s Committee on Oversight and Government Affairs, issued an October 2011 subpoena for any and all information and documents relating to Fast and Furious. Fast and Furious is one of the multiple operations under the head of Operation Gun Runner.

Operation Gun Runner was started under Bush and Co. To their credit, Bush and Co. stopped Project Gun Runner when they found that there was no way to track the guns going to the drug cartels in Mexico. Also to their credit, under Bush and Co., the Mexican government and Justice department were in agreement with, and included in the operation.

Under 0bama and Co., Project Gun Runner was started again in 2009 without the Mexican government's and Justice Department's knowledge or approval. Wikileak released emails from the U.S. Embassy in Mexico that verified that the Mexican government and Justice Department knew nothing about the gun walking.

Gun dealers and merchants were told by the Justice Department and it's underling agencies to sell the guns to the buyers from the drug cartels. Law enforcement agents like the boots-on-the-ground ATF and Border agents were told to let the guns pass on or 'walk'. It was guns that were allowed to walk that killed Agent Brian Terry and a U.S. agent in Mexico.

Boots-on-the-ground ATF and Border agents who complained to superiors or Justice Department officials about the illegality of what was being done were reprimanded. The ATF agents have claimed that some of the undercover ATF and Border agents were outed as part of their being reprimanded for filing complaints.

After the murder of U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry in December 2010, his family pushed for Congressional investigations into the operations. Since then, 0bama and Co., including the Justice Department, have claimed they had no idea what was happening.

On Monday, Issa released information about six wiretap applications that he says prove high-ranking Justice Department officials knew about the gun walking tactics. The wiretaps applications were suppose to be part of sealed court documents and Issa is claiming a whistleblower provided the Committee with these, and other information such as emails. While Issa can't release the documents to the public, other committee members may have seen them, and the Committee can question AG Holder on their contents.

The wiretaps were parts of Justice Department court cases against arrested drug cartel members. Some of the defendants in the Justice Department cases have made claims that they were given immunity deals by the Justice Department in exchange for informing on the drug cartels. The defendants claim the wiretaps would provide evidence that they were granted immunity from prosecution if they acted as Justice Department agents. The Justice Department has denied the defendants access to certain documents by stating that the documents were covered under national security and had federal court judges order them sealed.

Issa says the wiretap applications were signed by Assistant Attorney General Lanny Breuer, Holder’s second in command. At a House Judiciary Committee hearing on Justice Department oversight today  Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), read excerpts of the emails Holder claimed did not refer to Fast and Furious but instead referred to another gun-walking operation known as “Wide Receiver.”

Holder told the committee: “That refers to Wide Receiver, not to Fast and Furious. The e-mail that you [Rep. Chaffetz] just read [between Trusty and Weinstein] – now this is important – that email referred to Wide Receiver, it did not refer to Fast and Furious. That has to be noted for the record.”

Chaffetz, after a long pause, said, "No, it doesn't. It says Fast and Furious. 'Do you think we should have Lanny participate in press when Fast and Furious and Laura’s Tucson case [Wide Receiver] are unsealed?' It's specific to Fast and Furious. That is not true, Mr. Attorney General. I'm happy to share it with you."

Issa has drafted a resolution that would place the attorney general in contempt of Congress for not releasing the subpoenaed information, and for redacting whole pages within some of the information they have released. After today's Judiciary Committee meeting, A.G. Holder made it known he wants to meet personally with House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), Issa, Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) and Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) to discuss the possibility of giving Congress long-sought information Issa had subpoenaed.

Boehner has denied that there are any conversations with the Justice Department but did not respond to the new offer from Holder to have a meeting. Do I smell the stench of a deal in the making? Yes.

For over a year, Issa has been pursuing who gave permission for the operation, who knew about the events and tactics of Fast and Furious, when they knew of it and who signed off on it. Issa is also in possession of court sealed documents that could be illegal for him to have that seem to very damning for Holder and possibly the WH.  Issa has drafted a resolution that would place the attorney general in contempt of Congress.

Boehner has to sign off on an Issa prepared comtempt charge against Holder. Holder could be proposing to not initiate an investigation and prosecution against Issa if Boehner just makes it all go away. Do I trust that Boehner will stand firm and go for full disclosure of Fast and Furious? No.

In a recent interview, Issa declared he is prepared to pursue this case to the end, no matter the personal risk to himself. He has said that the murders of American and Mexican citizens demand justice. The officials who were responsible for the illegal programs and their tactics under Project Gun Runner like Fast and Furious are just as guilty of the murders as if they had pulled the triggers.

Is this going to be one of those grossly illegal cases that is sealed, only to be made public in 50 years?

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(Date Posted:06/17/2012 12:15 AM)

Justice Official Questioned About 'Fast and Furious' Is Leaving His Job

Ronald Weich, an assistant attorney general for legislative affairs at the Justice Department who once denied reports of ATF gun-running, is leaving his job, the Justice Department announced Wednesday afternoon.

This is coincidental as reports have come out that Holder wants a meeting with Boehner and Issa about the material Holder seems ready to finally turn over to the House Judiciary Committee. 

ATF whistleblower site members not buying Holder’s ‘Fast and Furious’ testimony

The article gives an update of what is happening and is accompanied by a small photo of Eric Holder and Sheila Jackson-Lee confer with each other before his testimony and her interrogation time.

If you have kept up with the 'Fast and Furious' hearings, you know that Jackson-Lee has been one of the people repeatedly objecting to the hearings and  throwing a fly in the ointment when she is able to do so. It seems inappropriate for a member of a Congressional House Judiciary Committee to be conversing with someone they will be "interrogating" in an hour.

If you are skeptical as to whether the photo was taken recently, or on the day when AG Holder was before the committee, view the C-Span video at the 1:38:00 time frame.
Jackson-Lee is earing the same outfit in the photo and in the video.

Blogger Vanderboegh reports murdered ICE agent investigating Fast and Furious
Citizen investigative journalist Mike Vanderboegh is reporting this morning on the Sipsey Street Irregulars blog that Congressional investigators have viewed “an Immigration & Customs Enforcement (ICE) Report of Investigation (ROI) from August 2010 describing 80 weapons seized in an arms smuggling interdiction between Phoenix, Arizona and San Antonio, Texas.

“The ROI was written and signed by Homeland Security Investigations Special Agent Jaime Zapata, who was shot dead in an ambush at a fake roadblock in San Luis Potosí, Mexico on 15 February 2011,” Vanderboegh reveals.

While the weapons found at the Zapata murder scene were not from among the Fast and Furious guns, this revelation is profoundly significant, because it directly contradicts sworn testimony by Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano.

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(Date Posted:06/21/2012 10:59 PM)

Brian Terry's parents said that 0bama called them at the funeral.

This is the presser that Carney had today. I will offer the corrections on his - ahem ...'misstatements' regarding questions on Project Gunrunner sub project Fast and Furious.
The White House

Office of the Press Secretary

For Immediate Release June 21, 2012 Press Briefing by Press Secretary Jay Carney, 6/21/12
James S. Brady Press Briefing Room

12:28 P.M. EDT

MR. CARNEY: Hello, everyone. Welcome to the White House.

Before I take your questions I just wanted to note that today the Department of Health and Human Services announced that 12.8 million Americans will benefit from $1.1 billion in rebates from insurance companies. These rebates will be delivered by August 1st. The rebates were made possible by the Affordable Care Act, which generally requires insurance companies to spend at least 80 percent of consumers' premium dollars on health care, not advertising, bonuses, or overhead. If insurance companies do not meet that standard, they must provide rebates to their consumers.

The rebates are just another example of how the Affordable Care Act is giving consumers a better value for their health care dollar and making our health care system stronger.

I'm sure there will be a lot of questions about that, and perhaps on other issues.

Ben Feller.

Q Thanks, Jay. I wanted to ask about Fast and Furious and the move by the House panel to cite the Attorney General for contempt. Historically, in these standoffs, there's some arrangement reached between the White House and Congress to prevent a potential court fight that could hurt either side. Can you tell us if there's any such effort underway right now between the White House and Republicans on the Hill?

MR. CARNEY: I can tell you that we certainly would like to resolve this if there is a good-faith desire to resolve it on the part of House Republicans.

I think it's worth taking a step back. At the beginning of this year, Republicans announced that one of their chief legislative and strategic priorities was to investigate the administration and damage the President politically. We are nine days away from the expiration of federal transportation funding, which guarantees jobs for almost a million construction workers because Congress has not passed a transportation bill. We are 10 days away from student loan rates doubling, potentially impacting over 7.4 million borrowers. Yet, instead of creating jobs or helping the middle class, congressional Republicans are focused on this politically motivated, taxpayer-funded, election-year fishing expedition.

The problem of gunwalking was a field-driven tactic that dated back to the previous administration, and it was this administration's Attorney General who ended it. In fact, the Justice Department has spent the past 14 months accommodating congressional investigators, including producing 7,600 pages of documents and testifying at 11 congressional hearings. Yet, Republicans insist on moving forward with an effort that Republicans and objective legal experts have noted is purely political.

Given the economic challenges facing the country, we believe House Republicans should instead be engaged in efforts to create jobs and grow the economy, rather than political theater.
As usual, Carney throws in an issue to obfuscate and draw a political spin instead of going directly to answer the question.
Operation Wide Receiver was started with the full consent and co-operation of the Mexican government under Bush and Co. The Mexican government and Bush and Co. were trying to find the gun dealers who were selling the guns and track them to the cartel members to arrest them. It was stopped after the Mexican government and Bush and Co.found they could not track the 300 guns that were sold to the straw buyers from the drug cartels.

0bama and Co. started it up again in September 2009.
0bama and the Democrat controlled Congress passed and authorized Project Gunrunner in the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009. 0bama owned it when he signed it into Public Law No: 111-5.
Page 16 of 407
        state and local law enforcement assistance
For an additional amount for ‘‘State and Local Law Enforcement
Assistance’’, $40,000,000, for competitive grants to provide
assistance and equipment to local law enforcement along the
Southern border and in High-Intensity Drug Trafficking Areas to
combat criminal narcotics activity stemming from the Southern
border, of which $10,000,000 shall be transferred to ‘‘Bureau of
Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, Salaries and Expenses’’
for the ATF Project Gunrunner.

The Mexican Government and ATF officials in Mexico were not informed nor did they consent to this being done. ATF and DOJ leadership kept their own personnel in Mexico and Mexican government officials totally in the dark about all aspects of Fast and Furious.
AG Holder stopped it in December 2010 after Agent Terry and Zapata were killed.

The Dept of Justice has only turned over 7,600 pages of all pages the October 12 2011 subpoena by the House Committee. There were heavy redactions(blacked out areas) on many of the papers with some of the pages being a totally redacted page.

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Q So you think it's political theater. But is there something happening behind the scenes? Do you think there is a good-faith effort that can be had here to resolve this?

MR. CARNEY: As you know, the Attorney General requested a meeting with the chairman of the committee and, while I would refer you to the Department of Justice for more details, made an effort to reach a resolution on this matter. And it is certainly in our -- we believe worth the effort of trying to find a solution. But we have to have a willingness on the other side to work with us to find that solution.

It is important for the public to know -- the public, by and large, is not particularly aware of this matter -- that every document related to the Fast and Furious operation has long since been provided to congressional investigators. And as I noted before, this is an operation and a tactic that was generated in the field during the previous administration that, when it was discovered by the Attorney General, when he became aware of it, he ended it in this administration. He referred it to the Inspector General for investigation. It has been recognized by the Attorney General and others in this administration, including the President, as a flawed tactic that needed to be ended and investigated, and this administration has done that.

What this is about, after all this time and all these documents and all the testimony, is an attempt to score political points. I think it's a -- speaking of flaws -- a flawed attempt, because it is this approach I think that explains at least in part why this Congress has the lowest public approval ratings of any in memory, if not history. So that is our view of the matter.
after the House Oversight Committee released the statement that they were going to initiate Contempt of Congress against AG Holder, Holder did request the meeting. At the meeting Holder reinterated that they have turned over all the documents that they intended on turning over. After that meeting Pres. 0bama issued his executive privilege announcement. Then Speaker Boehner released that there would be a draft for Contempt of Congress drawn up and that the House will vote on it next week.

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Q Last question. Can you clarify or elaborate on what you mean by every document has been provided when the President has asserted privilege on some documents?

MR. CARNEY: Correct. The issue here is about after-the-fact, internal documents that have to do with the executive branch’s ability to operate appropriately and independently in response to congressional investigations and media inquiries. Everything that has been -- every piece of documentation that relates to the operation itself -- if the interest here is in the operation -- how it came about, its origination, how it was approved, why such a flawed tactic was employed, that has been provided to congressional investigators.

The assertion of privilege has to do with the protection of the executive branch’s capacity, enshrined in the Constitution in the separation of powers, to deliberate independently and respond appropriately to congressional investigators’ requests and to media inquiries.

I would note also that, as I said, the Attorney General referred this manner, when he learned of it and put a stop to it, to the Inspector General. The Inspector General has access to all the documents at issue here, and is investigating at the Attorney General’s request.
Everything that has been -- every piece of documentation that relates to the operation itself has not been given to the committee. Whistleblowers from the boots on the agents have given the Committee documents that DoJ has not released to them. The gun dealers have given to the committee audio and video they made when they were told to sell the guns to the cartels straw buyers.
And, again, the committee requested documents from the DoJ and not the WH. If, as 0bama and Co. have claimed that they knew nothing of this, then there is no reason to use executive privilege on the documents as there could be no communications in them with the WH.

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Reuters and then Jake.

Q Thanks, Jay. On the resignation of the Commerce Secretary, does the President plan to nominate somebody else and try and get them confirmed?

MR. CARNEY: Well, first, I would refer you to the President’s statement thanking John Bryson for his service, noting Mr. Bryson’s many decades of service both in the private sector and the public sector. And I would refer you to Secretary Bryson’s letter explaining his resignation.

Dr. Blank, Becky Blank, will serve as Acting Commerce Secretary. If we have a personnel announcement to make beyond that we’ll let you know. But the President has a lot of confidence in Dr. Blank -- she has served in this position already and did it quite well -- and has a great deal of confidence in her ability to carry on the important work that the Commerce Department does.

Q So that’s a no, there’s no plan to nominate someone else?

MR. CARNEY: No, I said that if we had a personnel announcement to make we would provide it, and we will, if and when we do.

Q Okay. Let’s try on another thing. There’s a story in the Times today about the CIA helping allies make sure that weapons don’t get into the wrong hands in the Syrian opposition. I don’t know that I can get you to talk about intelligence matters, but I wonder if you could talk about how much you know about the opposition and how much confidence anyone can have that weapons that go to the Syrian opposition stay out of the hands of potential foes?

MR. CARNEY: I appreciate what you noted because I’m not going to discuss intelligence matters.

I can say that as a general matter -- and this is something I've noted before -- that part of this period of helping the opposition consolidate itself has been one where we have evaluated who makes up the opposition. And we've certainly noted that there are some elements of the opposition that are not necessarily friendly to the United States. They do not make up the bulk of the opposition, and the opposition is not entirely unified, as you know. But again, that would be a separate matter from the issue that you raised at the top of the question.

Q So how much confidence do you have that you know enough about the opposition that you can actually direct the flow of weapons in the right direction?

MR. CARNEY: Well, again, I'm not commenting on an article so I can't -- I can only say to you that our position on providing lethal assistance has not changed.

What I can tell you is that we provide humanitarian aid to the Syrian people. We provide non-lethal assistance to the opposition, and we continue to work with the opposition, in concert with our international partners, to help them organize themselves, to help them develop greater capacities, all as part of the process of preparing for a political transition that the Syrian people absolutely desire and deserve and that will take place.

Q And that stops short of giving the opposition weapons?

MR. CARNEY: Again, we do not, as a matter of policy, provide lethal aid to the opposition.
"I can only say to you that our position on providing lethal assistance has not changed."
Guess Carney did not read the article about 0bama and Co meeting to discuss arming the opposition in Syria. Government contractors can give them the weapons and provide 0bama and Co with plausible deniability.

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Q The documents being blocked through executive privilege, are any of them to or from individuals in the White House? Or are they all internal DOJ documents?

MR. CARNEY: I don’t have a way to characterize the documents in question here. I can tell you that long ago, the administration provided documentation about specific questions regarding officials at the White House and the national security staff. That was a long time ago, which speaks to -- it was last fall -- speaks to how prolonged this political investigation has been ongoing.

The point I made earlier is that this is an assertion based on the absolute need for this President, as the steward of the executive branch -- not just for his administration but for every administration going forward -- to retain the separation of powers, to protect the capacity of the executive branch to deliberate on these matters, and to work independently and appropriately in response to these kinds of inquiries.

The issue here has been the operation known as Fast and Furious, and that operation is being thoroughly investigated by the Inspector General, who has access to all these documents, including the ones that you’re asking about. And when it comes to the operation itself, everything has been provided to congressional investigators. And that is really the issue, isn’t it? It is, how did this operation come about? And it originated in a field office during the previous administration. It was ended under this administration, by this Attorney General.
Again, the 'it started under the previous administration thing. I guess 0bama and Co thinks that if they say that enough that their followers will start believing it and repeating it to shut down the truth.
There is a definite conflict of interest in the DOJ Inspector General and DHS Inspector General investigating all this as both Departments are involved in it.

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Q The operation began in fall 2009. The operation Fast and Furious began --

MR. CARNEY: The tactic began in the previous administration.

Q Okay, but the operation -- you keep saying --

MR. CARNEY: Okay. The tactic began in the previous administration, and it was ended under this one when this Attorney General discovered it and believed it was a flawed tactic. He then referred it to the Inspector General.

Q The documents that the President is asserting executive privilege and not disclosing -- you don’t know or you’re not going to say whether any of them are to or from anybody in the White House?

MR. CARNEY: Again, I’m not going to characterize documents related to this except to say that, on the specific matter of White House -- anybody in the White House -- and this refers, I think -- and you know if you cover this, and I know some folks here have -- you know because these documents were provided and are out there and were provided back in the fall -- they relate to anybody in the White House knowing about the so-called Fast and Furious operation. Any document related to the White House, anybody at the White House knowing about the Fast and Furious operation was provided -- at the time was provided back in the fall.

Q In early 2011, the Justice Department wrote a letter to Congress in which they said something that was not true.

MR. CARNEY: Right.

Q Right? They said that ATF had nothing to do with guns going over into Mexico. That wasn’t true, and it took them until December 2011 to take that back. Is there not a legitimate investigative and oversight responsibility to find out what the Department of Justice knew when they were giving false information to Congress?

MR. CARNEY: First of all, I think that matter has been thoroughly discussed in congressional testimony, including nine appearances by the Attorney General, including the 7,600 --

Q -- after the false statement?

MR. CARNEY: -- documents that have been provided. The issue -- I would refer you to a leading member of Congress in the Republican Party who, himself, called this politics. I think most people in this room understand that this is about politics. It is not about an effort to divine the truth in a serious matter -- which is why the tactic used in this operation was used, how it originated, and the consequences of using it.

This administration takes very seriously, the Attorney General, as demonstrated by the actions he took, takes it very seriously. And he has demonstrated his willingness to try to reach a resolution to this matter with congressional investigators. To this point, the interest of House Republicans has been to use this politically, as they previewed for the world in the beginning of this year when they made clear that that was one of their chief goals of the year.
What Carney seems to not mention is that this was all happening before the 2010 elected Representatives took their seats. Agents were killed in December 2010. The investigation was not started until 2011.
Also not brought up is that this gun walking was happening in DHS  Napolitano's own home grounds.  Napolitano - former Governor of Arizona.

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Q Jay, just one last question. The family of Brian Terry, the slain Border Patrol agent at whose murder scene at least two of these guns were found, they disagree with your characterization about these investigations. They say that the Attorney General’s refusal to fully disclose the documents associated with Fast and Furious and President Obama’s assertion of executive privilege serves to compound this tragedy. It denies the Terry family and the American people the truth. That’s a statement from the Terry family lawyer.

MR. CARNEY: Look, we absolutely agree with the need to find out the truth about why Fast and Furious happened, why the tactic that, again, was employed in the previous administration in different operations and was stopped by this Attorney General -- why it came about. And that’s why the Attorney General referred it to the Inspector General. That is why we have provided Congress every document that pertains to the operation itself that is at issue here when you talk about the family that you referred to. And --

Q The Terry family.

MR. CARNEY: The Terry family. And that is separate from an attempt by members of Congress, Republican members of Congress, to try to score political points -- as Senator Grassley referred to his desire for a “political scalp” -- that is separate from trying to find out the truth about what happened in this operation, which this administration has been pursuing since the Attorney General discovered it.

Let me move around a little bit. Steve, and then Norah. Yes.

Q Can you say categorically that there is no -- there’s been no cover-up?

MR. CARNEY: Absolutely.

Q There’s nothing being covered up by the Justice Department, by the White House, as far as your involvement in --

MR. CARNEY: Again, the Attorney General --

Q -- not in the initial thing, but in the --

MR. CARNEY: The Attorney General referred this matter to the Inspector General. The Inspector General has full access to all documents we are discussing right now -- full access. And he is investigating this matter. Congress has been provided an enormous number of documents -- 7,600 pages. It has been provided access to the Attorney General on eight occasions, as well as other Justice Department officials and relevant officials to this matter. And this has gone on for months and months and months.

The assertion of privilege has to do with the absolute necessity of retaining the executive branch’s independence enshrined in the Constitution in the separation of powers, to allow it to appropriately and independently respond to -- deliberate and respond to these kinds of inquiries. That is an assertion that has been made by administrations of both parties dating back 30 years. And that is the matter -- that is what the issue is here.

Again, the Attorney General of this administration ended this practice. He referred it to the Inspector General. The Inspector General has been investigating since that time, and has access to all these documents.

Yes, Norah.

Q On Syria, is the United States, along with allies, willing to give President Bashar al-Assad safe passage out of the country?

MR. CARNEY: It is not for us to decide that. It is up to the Syrian people to decide the fate of Mr. Assad. And it is -- I know the report you’re referring to, and I would simply state that it is our position to work with the international community, to work with our partners to try to bring about the political transition that the Syrian people desperately deserve. And it is our firm belief that that political transition cannot take place without Bashar al-Assad stepping down, removing himself from power.

Q So what are you suggesting happens to Assad when he removes himself from power?

MR. CARNEY: Well, this is not a matter for the United States to decide, certainly not alone. The fact of the matter is we need to --

Q So when Assad steps down he can stay in Syria?

MR. CARNEY: President Assad has not made any indication -- I think he's made every indication to the contrary -- that he is going to participate in this political transition that his people are demanding. Instead he has launched a brutal assault against his own people, an assault that continues to this day.

Q But the U.S. policy position is to call for a peaceful political transition. Is there no answer with what to do with Assad once he steps down?

MR. CARNEY: Again, that is not something that the United States decides. That was an issue, I think you'll recall, that was raised during the Libya situation. The United States does not make a decision about the disposition of leaders who remove themselves from power. That’s obviously up to the Syrian people.

Q But perhaps Yemen is a better comparison. Is the U.S. encouraging Kofi Annan to host sort of a conference-type, where there would be a transition of power like they did in Yemen and President Saleh got immunity? Is that a potential option?

MR. CARNEY: I'm not going to negotiate from here an outcome in Syria except to say that our clear position is that Assad has no place in Syria's future. He has long since relinquished any claim he had to a spot in Syria's future as its leader by the horrific actions he's taken in an effort to thwart the will of the Syrian people and to retain his own hold on power.

Q And then final question on Syria. After the bilat between President Obama and President Putin, there seemed to be some indication afterwards from U.S. officials and others that Putin expressed that he was not wedded to Assad. Is that correct?

MR. CARNEY: I'm not going to speak for President Putin. I can only tell you that, as the President said and others said, that Syria was certainly a topic of discussion during their lengthy bilateral meeting and the two leaders share the desire for an end to the violence in Syria. And I would refer you to the statements that each leader made. But I can't speak for President Putin from here.

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Q Since we were talking about transparency on Fast and Furious, a quick one on Bryson, Secretary Bryson stepping down. He's now -- you've added an event with the President and Secretary Bryson. Why is that not open to the entire media and to television cameras? We haven't seen him since the hit-and-run incidents. Maybe people want to ask a question. Maybe we want to see how healthy he is. Why is it not open to cameras?

MR. CARNEY: Secretary Bryson submitted his resignation letter; the President accepted it. It is a matter -- in terms of his medical condition, I would simply refer you to his letter of resignation and refer you then to him and to the Commerce Department for further questions about that. This is a situation where --

Q Well, we'd like to --

MR. CARNEY: -- the President is meeting with Secretary Bryson to thank him for his service, to thank him for the months he spent as Commerce Secretary and to commend him for his lifetime of service in the public and private sector.

Q You repeatedly, on Fast and Furious, kept saying that the Attorney General deserved credit for ending the gunrunning operation, but you seem to be leaving out the fact that Agent Terry was killed, and not --

MR. CARNEY: Not at all, Ed. That's an insult.

Q No, but you’re not mentioning -- does he not deserve -- the Attorney General -- you’re giving him credit for ending the operation. Does he not deserve some blame for the fact that this gunrunning operation resulted in a federal agent being killed on his watch?

MR. CARNEY: Well, the Attorney General made clear and has made clear on numerous occasions, including the eight times he has testified on Capitol Hill with regard to this matter, that when he learned about it, took this matter exceptionally seriously. That is why he ended it, and that is why he referred it to the Inspector General for investigation.

This is a tactic that was employed in operations in the prior administration -- during the prior administration. It was a field-driven tactic. It was not something that was generated out of Washington. When it was discovered by the Attorney General he put an end to it, and he launched -- or requested an investigation into it. I think that demonstrates the seriousness with which he regards it.

Q You've also given the Attorney General credit here in this briefing for turning over -- I think you at one point said every page to Congress -- 7,600 pages. But my understanding is the Inspector General at the Justice Department has gotten tens of thousands of pages. I think the number is something 70,000 -- 80,000 pages. So how can you say every page has been turned over if Congress has gotten about 10 percent of it?

MR. CARNEY: Well, I think you’re engaging in a little selective listening.

Q Well, you said every page --

MR. CARNEY: What I did say is every page related to the Fast and Furious operation. And that is what is at issue here -- how did this operation come about, how did this tactic begin to be used -- a flawed tactic, which everyone recognizes -- including the Attorney General, the President of the United States, congressional leaders of both parties was a flawed tactic and a mistake. And that’s why this Attorney General referred this matter to the IG for investigation.

What is being -- the documents over which privilege is being asserted are internal executive branch documents that have to do with response to congressional inquiries, response to media inquiries. Those kinds of deliberations have been protected under privilege as a matter of the separation of powers enshrined in the Constitution by administrations of both parties dating back 30 years.

Q How many pages is the --

MR. CARNEY: I don’t have a page count for you, Ed.

Q Well, why not?

MR. CARNEY: I just don’t.

Q I mean, you have given us no information about what is covered by what the President is claiming executive privilege on beyond the broad protecting advisors advice --

MR. CARNEY: As you, I think perhaps more than others, given the interest in this at your network, knows the administration, principally the Department of Justice, has cooperated extensively with congressional investigators, provided extensive documentation. The administration has even provided documents related to an interest in whether or not people in the White House knew of this operation at the time --

Q But why is there not a piece of paper --

MR. CARNEY: -- and provided that --

Q How many pages --

MR. CARNEY: -- let me finish, please, Ed -- and provided that last fall. And there wasn’t a lot of interest in it because it disappointed those who were trying to make politics out of this.

And here is the central fact of this matter: This many months into it, this many months where House Republican leaders have been focused on this rather than helping the economy grow or helping it create jobs, is that there is no evidence of anything beyond what the Attorney General has said about this matter. And our level of cooperation has been extensive.

Q But when you say, “go back to last fall,” the President’s executive privilege claim only came in yesterday. So why are we getting no information --

MR. CARNEY: Because we made every --

Q -- and how broad is the scope? I mean, what does it cover?

MR. CARNEY: Ed, I can attempt to get more details for you, in terms of what it covers. I don't have page numbers for you. What I can tell you is that the assertion of privilege came at the time when it became clear that there was no intention to resolve this matter, at least to that point, in a good-faith effort by House Republican leaders; that they were committed to their previously publicly announced intention to hold a contempt vote -- a highly political gesture, a completely partisan vote; and when efforts to resolve this matter otherwise were exhausted, in order to provide the absolutely necessary stewardship to the executive branch that this President must provide on behalf of his administration and every future administration, this action was taken.

Q Jay, on this question of how far the privilege goes, traditionally, privileges involve either the interactions with the White House and the White House staff, or national security. In this case, it seems to go beyond that. Is it a general thought in the White House that executive privilege -- is it applied to all the executive branch, even in the --
MR. CARNEY: Well, Steve, I’m not the counsel, but I think that you need to do a little research. The truth is our assertion is consistent with the positions taken by prior administrations in disputes with Congress that date back to the Washington administration in 1792. The legal analysis is blessed by the career DOJ staff, who have advised both Democratic and Republican administrations on congressional executive relations. And as both historical practice and judicial decisions confirm, the fact that documents reside within an agency rather than in the White House is irrelevant to whether they are privileged.

There are at least five examples we can provide to you from recent history where that is demonstrated.

Chris and then Dan.

Q Jay, in 2007 President Obama criticized former President Bush for asserting executive privilege, for not handing over documents related to the firings of the nine U.S. attorneys. Does he not run the risk of looking hypocritical by criticizing the former President and now essentially evoking the same action?

MR. CARNEY: No, because this President, again, is -- after making, through his Department of Justice, an extraordinary effort to cooperate with Congress on this matter of providing thousands of pages of documents, having the Attorney General testify eight times -- asserting a privilege that retains the capacity of the executive branch now and in the future to operate independently, as enshrined in the Constitution.

I would note that this is the first time President Obama has asserted the privilege. But as you know, previous Presidents of both parties have done so repeatedly. According to CRS, executive privilege has been asserted 24 times since 1981. President George W. Bush asserted it six times. President Clinton, 14 times. President George H.W. Bush asserted it once. And President Reagan, three times. In fact, President Obama has gone longer without asserting the privilege than any President in the last three decades, which is consistent with the statement that you quoted.
Bottom line is, after a level of cooperation that I think demonstrates this administration’s absolute interest in finding out the truth about the Fast and Furious operation, and why that flawed tactic was used, its origins and its implementation, its efforts to work with Congress to provide it the information that was required under legitimate oversight needs, an assertion was made -- because this has become a political fishing expedition.

And it is absolute evidence -- and I would refer you to the statements by congressional House -- rather, Republican congressional leaders from the beginning of the year, where they made clear that one of their chief priorities for this year was to use their investigative power in the House to score political points in this election year. I think knowing that tells you everything about the motivations here.

Q You make the point that you’ve turned over thousands of documents, and yet not all of the documents that Congress would like to see. So what's the difference? Why not --

MR. CARNEY: Well, I think I made clear in answers several times to the questions that every document that relates to the Fast and Furious operation has been provided. And others have been provided, as I mentioned last fall, that relate to any knowledge anybody in the White House had contemporaneously about the Fast and Furious operation -- again, as part of an effort to cooperate, as part of an effort to resolve this matter in a professional way, not in a partisan way.

Unfortunately, there has been a clear commitment by the chairman involved and leaders in the Republican Party in the House but also in the Senate to try to turn this into a political issue.

And I think it is worth checking in with the American people as to whether they think that is worth the effort -- that that is what they what Congress to be doing at a time when Congress could be passing bills tomorrow that would keep a million construction workers on the job in this country in this economy. They could be passing bills tomorrow that would ensure that teachers would not be laid off, and that teachers that have been laid off would return to the classroom. They could pass a bill tomorrow to provide access to historically low mortgage interest rates to Americans across the country, during a period where we’re still very much recovering from a terrible housing -- having the housing bubble burst and a crisis that ensued for so many families with regards to the values of their homes.

These are actions that the American people expect Congress to take. They do not expect Congress to waste time on politically motivated fishing expeditions, which this has clearly become.

Q And on that point, the President is going to hold an event later today to call on Congress to pass a bill that would keep student loan rates low. Leaders in the House and Senate in the Republican Party say that they haven’t heard from the President or from anyone in the administration in recent days in response to a letter that they sent.

MR. CARNEY: Well, that's simply not true.

Q It’s not true?

MR. CARNEY: It’s simply not true. I can’t speak to any communications the President has had -- as you know, he was participating in the G20 summit. But we are actively working with members of Congress to get this done.

Q In both parties?
MR. CARNEY: Absolutely in both parties. And the fact of the matter is the only reason why we’re having this discussion is because President Obama raised it, brought it to the public’s attention, went around the country talking about it. You would not be hearing about the absolute necessity of ensuring that these loan rates didn’t double if it weren’t for President Obama’s decision to highlight this need. And in the end, we're going to get this done, I believe, because that’s the action that he took. And we are actively working with members of Congress to get this done.

I would -- we've seen this pattern before: Refusal to act; refusal even to acknowledge there's a problem unless and until the President highlights it, goes around the country talking about how it matters, how -- contrary to the assertions of some in the Republican Party -- education is very much an economic issue, how -- contrary to the assertion of the Speaker of the House -- this is not a "phony" issue, it is a deadly serious issue for more than 7 million students in America. And that’s why we have to take action on it, and that’s why in the end we believe that we can get there and get it done.

Q Well, have you gotten closer to determining what a pay-for would look like?

MR. CARNEY: I think that -- I will not negotiate from here the particulars, but the answer is, yes, broadly speaking. Because as you saw, which, again, is part of the pattern, when there was a recognition by Republicans that this had to be done because the public insisted on it, there was a kind of slightly angry effort to have a scalp thrown in by having non-germane, irrelevant pay-fors attached to it. But now we're getting to a point where we can hopefully reach an agreement that everybody can sign on to that will ensure that in just a few days these loan rates won't double for 7.4 million or 7.3 million American students.


Q During her press conference this morning, Nancy Pelosi suggested that Republicans were going after the Attorney General because he has been fighting voter suppression in various states. And in fact, as she wrapped up her press conference, she again reiterated that point. Does the White House share that view?

MR. CARNEY: I can't get into -- or I cannot divine the motivations behind what I think I've clearly suggested is something we believe has become a fishing expedition that’s unnecessary and unworthy of Congress at this time, when they could be acting on things that the American people care about, that could help the economy grow, help put teachers back to work and keep construction workers on the job. I didn’t see the press conference that you're referring to.

What I do believe, and what we do believe, is that Republican leaders have, and Republican members of Congress have, through the actions that they've taken with regards to this matter, lived up to their announcement at the beginning of the year that one of their chief legislative and strategic priorities would be to investigate the administration and damage the President politically. If you don’t believe me, I refer you to them. They said it. And they’re acting on their own agenda, which is unfortunate for the American people.

Q Earlier you said that you would like to see this resolved. As part of that resolution, do you see a point where the White House, the administration would be willing to hand over these documents in question, perhaps, with some conditions?

MR. CARNEY: I’m not going to negotiate from here how that would work. I’m not the appropriate person to do that either in here or with members of Congress. I would simply say that we have made every effort to resolve this matter, to cooperate with Congress, to provide the response -- adequate response to the legitimate oversight interest of Congress.

We believe very strongly that there is an absolutely appropriate role for legitimate congressional oversight, and that’s why we have cooperated as extensively as we have with this investigation and others. It may be why -- as I pointed out in response to another question, given the history of assertions of privilege of this kind in the last 30 years, this President is asserting it for the first time at the latest point of any history in those -- at the latest point in his term of any President in those past 30 years.

But there is a point beyond which it is his responsibility, as steward of the executive branch, to the American people and to future Presidents and future administrations, to retain the constitutionally enshrined separation of powers, to retain the capacity of the executive branch to deliberate and consult internally so that it can appropriately and independently respond to inquiries like this.

Q On the Bryson case, is the White House conducting any kind of inquiry into those accidents, or this just a police investigation?

MR. CARNEY: The White House is not. And again, I would simply note that on this day that Secretary Bryson has submitted his resignation and the President has accepted it, that our interest is very much in thanking Mr. Bryson for his service both in this administration and his service both in the private and the public sectors over the many years, and to wish him well.

Q Jay, you said to an earlier question that there was no White House cover-up involved in these documents that the President had declared privilege on. And you also said that, just again, that the President is just trying to protect the constitutionally enshrined power of the executive power to make decisions independently. In the documents in question is there any information that if put on the public record would jeopardize national security interest or embarrass the White House?

MR. CARNEY: Well, those are -- (laughter) -- I’m not going to give you a readout of documents that are under question here and relate to the assertion of privilege. What I can tell you is that there is nothing in these documents that pertains to the Fast and Furious operation. And I would simply note and have you ponder the fact that the Attorney General referred this to the Inspector General for investigation, and the Inspector General has access to all documentation as a member of the executive branch.

Q I guess the question is are you declaring it mostly on principle to ensure the separation of power or is there an issue of national security --

MR. CARNEY: Thank you for phrasing that. This is entirely about principle. It has nothing to do -- (laughter) -- no, no, this has nothing to do -- we have been absolutely clear about the fact that this operation used a tactic that originated in a field office that was flawed, that was wrong, and that had terrible consequences for the Terry family, and should not have been employed. And this Attorney General, when he learned about it, put an end to it and referred it for investigation.

I think that is -- long before this became an issue for House Republicans to politicize, this was something that the Attorney General made sure was being investigated by the Inspector General.

In terms of the assertion of privilege, it is, as I’ve said I think on a number of occasions already today, absolutely about the principle. It is not something that the President takes lightly. He does it because it is his responsibility as steward of the executive branch to retain the capacity of this administration, and every administration going forward, to function appropriately and independently from the congressional branch of government.

And I think, again, in answer to Ed's question about why is he doing it just now: Because we have been working so hard to cooperate and reach agreement with congressional investigators as they pursued their legitimate oversight into the Fast and Furious operation. But as they made clear in their own statements, that's not what seems to be the motivating factor here.

Yes, Jared.

Q Is there a search underway for a permanent replacement for Bryson, and who will head that?

MR. CARNEY: I don't have any personnel announcements to make. And if I do have one, I'll be sure to let you know. Dr. Blank has been Acting Commerce Secretary in the past. She did an excellent job. The President has full confidence in her ability to serve in that capacity again. Today, we are thanking John Bryson for his service.

Q And then, a follow up.


Q For the last couple of days, Senator Marco Rubio has expressed frustration that he wasn't consulted before the President made his immigration policy announcement. Why not, considering he said he was working on something along the same lines?

MR. CARNEY: Well, Congress has had the ability to act on this ever since Republicans blocked the DREAM Act, even though it had a majority vote in the Senate. And what the President made clear in his statement in the Rose Garden on Friday is that this is a temporary solution, this is not a permanent solution. Congress needs to act so that we have a permanent solution.

And to your point, this is an announcement, first of all, made by Secretary Napolitano. It has to do with building on an enforcement decision about prosecutorial discretion and this is about implementing our enforcement priorities.

It is not about -- it has been reported as an executive order. Let's just be clear, it is not an executive order. This is an announcement made by Secretary Napolitano that is about the enforcement of our priorities, which as I think we've made clear and demonstrated by the numbers, we believe should be focused on those who are criminals and those who are dangerous.

And that is what this new development that the President discussed in the Rose Garden, that Secretary Napolitano announced, is aimed at, which is ensuring that we are enforcing the law in a way that makes the right decisions in terms of priorities, and does not unfairly and unnecessarily punish people who come to this country through no fault of their own, often as infants or young children, who consider themselves American and are American in most ways, who contribute to this society and could be staffing our labs and attending our colleges -- and that’s what this is focused on.

Q But isn't it a way to build support in reaching out to a senator who clearly has a lot of --

MR. CARNEY: Look, the President has made clear all along that he is very interested in a legislative solution to this situation.

Q Why not reach out to Senator Rubio on it?

MR. CARNEY: Well, we have, broadly speaking, reached out to members of Congress. Look, we have a situation here where the nominee of the Republican Party, the head of that party at this point, has said he would veto the DREAM Act. That is not encouraging as a sign of cooperation or willingness by Republicans, unfortunately, to --

Q Senator Rubio --

MR. CARNEY: Well, Senator Rubio is one Republican.

Q He's not Mitt Romney.

MR. CARNEY: And what we learned when this was voted on at the end of 2010 is that Republican opposition put an end to the majority support for passage of the DREAM Act. Now, if there is a change of view, this President would welcome that, and hopes that Congress will act -- because the announcement made Friday is not by any means a permanent fix to this problem.


Q Jay, we've heard Republicans calling for Attorney General Holder to step down or be fired in the last couple days. Has anything happened in the last 48 hours that has dampened either the President's friendship with or confidence in the Attorney General?

MR. CARNEY: Absolutely not. I would refer you to my comments about partisan fishing expeditions and political theater, and one of the causes and consequences of the Congress with the lowest recorded approval ratings in history.

Q Would you favor us with a new statement of confidence in the Attorney General then?

MR. CARNEY: The President has full confidence in the Attorney General.

Q How far will the President go in standing by Eric Holder in the midst of all this --

MR. CARNEY: I'm not sure what that means. The President has full confidence --

Q Will the President come out making a statement? Will the President talk to congressional leaders, particularly Republican leaders to try to --

MR. CARNEY: We are engaged with -- we have been and will continue to be engaged in an effort to resolve this, and await a demonstration of an interest to resolve this in a way that isn't all about political theater.

Q So should we be able to -- would we assume that the President will --

MR. CARNEY: I have no announcements to make about the President's schedule.


Q Jay, were your comments a couple of minutes ago about Romney's threat to veto the DREAM Act if he were elected, is that something that would preview what the President's going to be saying tomorrow in Orlando?

MR. CARNEY: No, it's a statement of fact that I think I've uttered before.

Q So what is the message?

MR. CARNEY: Well, I don’t have a preview for the President's remarks. I simply -- in regard to questions about why there was not congressional action on the DREAM Act, I pointed you to a vote that took place where 55 United States senators voted yes, and the vast majority of Republicans blocked passage of it through the filibuster. So that’s a fact.

And the President would gladly engage with Congress if there was a demonstration of a sincere interest by Republicans to act on the DREAM Act because, as he made clear on Friday, the enforcement decisions that were made by the Secretary of DHS did not represent in any way a permanent solution to this problem.

Sorry. So much interest today. Ari.

Q Thanks. Setting aside the most recent enforcement action on immigration, this morning Senator Rubio said in the year and a half he's been in the Senate, he's not had one conversation with anyone in this administration about immigration. So if the White House is serious about --

MR. CARNEY: Well, I'm not aware that the Senator -- I'm not aware that the Senator has called expressing interest.

Q He's made a lot of public statements expressing interest.

MR. CARNEY: The fact is that there was a vote on the DREAM Act and it failed, despite receiving a substantial majority, and it failed because of overwhelming Republican opposition. If there's a change in that disposition, the President is very happy to engage with Congress to achieve the kind of legislative solution that is absolutely required.

The fact is that that’s what is needed here to ensure that these kids are not unfairly punished for the actions of their parents. These kids who are American in every way except for their papers should not be punished. And the actions that were taken by Secretary Napolitano and announced on Friday, and that the President spoke about in the Rose Garden, temporarily alleviate the problem, but they do not fix it. And that is for Congress to take up.

And we're certainly -- the President welcomes any expression of interest in resolving this matter by legislators of either party and welcomes the expression that you're referring to. But I have yet to see a bill emerge from the Republican side, in the Senate or the House, that addresses this program. I haven't even seen legislation submitted that addresses this problem. And if there's a sincere effort to do that, I'm sure -- I can guarantee you the President will be happy to see it.

I'll take one more.

Q The GOP leaders in the House and Senate are insisting that you guys have not reached out to them on the student loan issue, responding to their May 31st letter. So if you're not talking to them, who are you talking to?

MR. CARNEY: I don't know which -- a response to a public letter that -- was that where they called it a phony issue, or where they called it not an economic issue?

We are engaged with Congress in trying to get this done. I don't have a roster of which members or which staffers. We are certainly engaged with Congress. I don't have a roster of with whom, but it obviously requires both parties to get this done. And, therefore, we are working with Congress, broadly speaking, to get it done.

And the only reason -- let's just remember -- the only reason why we're talking about this is because the President made it an issue. It wasn't in the Republican budget. Rates would have doubled. Rates would double under the Republican budget's proposals. The President thinks that is a terrible thing to do to students right now, and that's why he made it an issue. And it's only because the President sort of raised the volume on this that there is now pressure on Republicans in Congress to do the right thing and take action, so that 7 million-plus American students don't see their interest rates double.

Q So you're talking to Republicans who are not in leadership then?

MR. CARNEY: I'm not sure the purpose of the question. I don't have in front of me a list of contacts.

Q Why can't you tell names, though, so we could just call them and say, are you guys in talks?

MR. CARNEY: Because is this like -- because you guys are interested in the gotcha -- oh, well, he is not talking to this person. I'm saying --

Q Because they're saying that they're trying to reach out to you, and you're saying we're talking to them and you can't name --

MR. CARNEY: I can guarantee you that this is being worked at by this administration with Congress. I just don't have names for you, Ed. I'm sorry.

Q But is it committee chairmen, or --

MR. CARNEY: Here's what's going to happen. When it gets resolved, and I think it will, it will not be a miraculous conception. It will be the result of negotiations between this administration and Congress -- broadly speaking, Congress. That includes Democrats and Republicans.

Q We're being told by McConnell's and Boehner's office specifically that it's not true. I mean, specifically.

MR. CARNEY: What I can tell you is that there are consultations going on in Congress that involve the administration to get this done. I don't have, again -- they know -- I don't have specific names for you to provide. It is irrelevant whether or not I have a roster of names. What I can tell you is it's being worked on by this administration and it's, we hope, going to get done, again because they know it has to get done because the American people are demanding that it get done, because it is entirely unfair to not take action to ensure that these loan rates don't double.

And as I said to Ed, if it does happen and we get this done in time to prevent the doubling of the rates, it won't be an accident. It will be the result of conversations, discussions and negotiations that involve the administration and Congress.


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Almost have to feel sorry for poor Carney, there were actually some real questions he had to think of answers for.

He was correct in that FOX News has been covering this for a year. So if the news channel you usually watch doesn't seem to have any information on it, then watch FOX News and read the material at the 3 sites I linked to previously.

If Congress will go after baseball players for alleged drug use, why shouldn't they go after who knew about this, when they knew and who authorized it when it has resulted in 2 U.S. agents being killed and hundreds of Mexican citizens being killed?

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(Date Posted:06/22/2012 6:15 PM)

The Congressional Oversight Committee has to follow this investigation to it's conclusion. This involves multiple agencies of the 0bama Administration. Note in Department of Justice AG Holder speech, he names FBI, DEA, ATF, and DHS. I can not locate Secretary Napolitano's speech that was similar to Holders. It's not on the DHS site anymore. But I did have an article that verified that she did speak along with Holder. Also remember that ICE has the largest force of investigators in the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).

On April 9, 2009, the Obama Administration submitted a FY2009 supplemental request that includes $66 million in International Narcotics Control and Law Enforcement assistance for Mexico under the Mérida Initiative to fund the acquisition, spare parts, and support for three Blackhawk helicopters to help Mexico’s Public Security Secretariat with air transport capacity. Another $16 million in reprogrammed Mérida Initiative funds would be used fund the helicopters, bringing the total funding to $82 million. (The supplemental request also included $350 million in Department of Defense Operation and Maintenance for counternarcotics and other activities, including assistance to other Federal agencies, on the U.S. border with Mexico.)

On April 15, 2009, President Obama designated three Mexican drug trafficking organizations— the Sinaloa Cartel, Los Zetas, and La Familia Michoacana as significant foreign narcotics traffickers under the Foreign Narcotics Kingpin Designation Act, which imposes U.S. economic sanctions on members of these groups.

On April 16-17, 2009, President Barack Obama traveled to Mexico to meet with President Calderón to discuss cooperation in the fight against drug related violence, immigration reform, and a new bilateral framework on clean energy and climate change. During the visit, President Obama acknowledged that the U.S. demand for drugs was helping to keeping the Mexican drugs cartels in business, and that “more than 90% of the guns recovered in Mexico come from the United States.” (“President Obama and Mexican President Felipe Calderón HoldNews Conference,” CQ Newsmaker Transcripts, April 16, 2009)

In early April 2009, Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano and Attorney General Eric Holder visited Mexico and attended an arms trafficking conference. Both officials emphasized new efforts by their agencies to combat the drug cartels, including the deployment of additional personnel and resources to support anti-gun trafficking and interdiction efforts and law enforcement cooperation.

Attorney General Eric Holder at the Mexico/United States Arms Trafficking Conference
CUERNAVACA, MEXICO ~ Thursday, April 2, 2009

Remarks as prepared for delivery.

First, let me express my thanks to Attorney General Medina Mora and Secretary of Government Gomez Mont for making this conference possible.

 This is my first trip to another country as Attorney General.   I wanted to come to Mexico to deliver a single message: We stand shoulder-to-shoulder with you in this fight against the narcotics cartels.  The United States shares responsibility for this problem and we will take responsibility by joining our Mexican counterparts in every step of this fight.

 And, together, we will win – thanks in large part to the courage of my Mexican colleagues here today, who are on the front lines every day, and with whom I am proud to collaborate.

 The topic that has been addressed over the past two days could not be more important – the development of an arms trafficking prosecution and enforcement strategy on both sides of the border. 

 I would like to thank the Mexican and U.S. experts who have worked so hard on this issue.  On our side, Secretary Napolitano and I are committed to putting the resources in place to increase our attack on arms trafficking into Mexico.

 Last week, our administration launched a major new effort to break the backs of the cartels.  My department is committing 100 new ATF personnel to the Southwest border in the next 100 days to supplement our ongoing Project Gunrunner, DEA is adding 16 new positions on the border, as well as mobile enforcement teams, and the FBI is creating a new intelligence group focusing on kidnapping and extortion.  DHS is making similar commitments, as Secretary Napolitano will detail.

 But as today’s conference has emphasized, the problem of arms trafficking will not be stopped at the border alone.  Rather, as our experts emphasized, this is a problem that must be met as part of a comprehensive attack against the cartels – an attack in depth, on both sides of the border, that focuses on the leadership and assets of the cartel.  This is the type of full-bore, prosecution-driven approach that the U.S. Department of Justice took to dismantle La Cosa Nostra – once the most powerful organized crime group operating in the United States. 
With partners like those we have here today, I am confident that together, we will defeat these narcotics cartels in exactly the same way.  I am proud to stand with you, and to join you in this fight.  Thank you again for inviting me here.

Quiero que el pueblo Mexicano sepa que mi nación está con ustedes en la lucha contra los narcotraficantes.

México y los Estados Unidos comparten mas que una frontera—compartimos cultura, sangre e intereses comunes. Somos hermanos unidos contra una batalla que ganaremos.

Tenemos que aprender de uno a otro, trabajar juntos y luchar juntos.  Si hacemos estas cosas, si nos dedicamos juntos a esta lucha, no tengo duda que tendremos éxito.

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  • Illegal Immigrant Suspected in Murder of Arizona Rancher

    Published March 30, 2010

    Robert Krentz was known among fellow ranchers as a good Samaritan who often helped injured illegal immigrants trying to cross the boiling desert border into Arizona. But the 58-year-old was gunned down while tending to his ranch Saturday morning, and police suspect an illegal immigrant was to blame.

  • America's Third War: Tracking Cocaine, One Kilo at a Time

    Published December 09, 2010

    It’s Mexico’s war, but Americans pay for it. Blame the violence, chaos, murder rate, corruption, instability and innocent lives taken – not on Mexico – but on America's drug habit, says Jim Gray, a former California Superior Court Judge and Los Angeles County prosecutor.

  • Obama Administration Under Mounting Pressure for Botched Gun Trafficking Investigation

    Published March 28, 2011

    Congress and the Department of Justice appear headed for a showdown this week over documents detailing "Operation Fast and Furious," the embarrassing Obama administration scandal that funneled guns to Mexico.

  • America's Third War: An Informant's Story

    Published April 27, 2011

    He is a confidential informant and ex-felon. He lives among drug dealers and corrupt officials along the U.S.-Mexican border. And after a year on the job, he is calling it quits.

  • America's Third War: Is the U.S. Arming Mexican Cartels?

    Published April 28, 2011

    Weapons used in drug war in Mexico may be supplied by U.S. Defense Department.

  • More Than 1,300 Guns Were Bought Illegally By Suspect Buyers Under ATF's 'Gunrunner' Program

    Published May 04, 2011

    It is the closest thing to a smoking gun investigators have in their probe of Project Gunrunner -- a document that shows U.S. officials’ allowed criminals to buy 1,318 guns worth nearly $1 million even after they suspected the buyers were working for Mexican drug cartels and the agency's effort to stop the guns had "yielded little or no results."

  • Justice Officials in 'Panic Mode' as Hearing Nears on Failed Anti-Gun Trafficking Program

    Published June 09, 2011

    Officials at the Department of Justice are in "panic mode," according to multiple sources, as word spreads that congressional testimony next week will paint a bleak and humiliating picture of Operation Fast and Furious, the botched undercover operation that left a trail of blood from Mexico to Washington, D.C. 

  • Two AK47's Used to Murder Mexican Lawyer Were 'Fast and Furious' Guns, Sources Say

    Published June 17, 2011

    Two guns sold to a Mexican cartel and used in the high-profile kidnapping and murder of a Mexican lawyer last year were purchased under the failed U.S. operation known as Fast and Furious, sources tell Fox News

  • Mexican Lawmakers Want Extradition for U.S. Officials Responsible for Botched 'Fast and Furious' Operation

    Published July 05, 2011

    While the investigation continues into the U.S. operation that helped send thousands of guns south of the border, Mexican lawmakers say they'll press for extradition and prosecution in Mexico of American officials who authorized and ran the operation. 

  • Operation Fast and Furious: The Straw Buyers

    Published July 20, 2011

    When the Operation Fast and Furious indictment was announced back in January, it was depicted as a big bust. Twenty suspects were charged with numerous counts of conspiracy, money laundering, gun running and drug trafficking. The defendants faced 5 to 20 years on a single count.

  • Feds Silent on How Convicted Felons Bought Guns in 'Operation Fast and Furious'

    Published July 25, 2011

    In the latest chapter of the gunrunning scandal known as Operation Fast and Furious, federal officials won't say how two suspects obtained more than 360 weapons despite criminal records that should have prevented them from buying one gun.

  • U.S. Attorney's Office Rejects Family of Murdered Border Patrol Agent as Crime Victims

    Published August 11, 2011

    In a surprise move in a controversial case, the U.S. Attorney's Office in Arizona is opposing a routine motion by the family of murdered Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry to qualify as crime victims in the eyes of the court.

  • Evidence Suggests Cover-Up in ATF Scandal, as More Guns Appear at Crime Scenes

    Published September 02, 2011

    Just hours after the death of Border Patrol agent Brian Terry, federal officials tried to cover up evidence that the gun that killed Terry, was one the government intentionally helped sell to the Mexican cartels in a weapons trafficking program known as Operation Fast and Furious.

  • Federal official in Arizona to plead the fifth and not answer questions on 'furious'

    Published January 20, 2012

    The chief of the Criminal Division of the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Arizona is refusing to testify before Congress regarding Operation Fast and Furious, the federal gun-running scandal that sent U.S. weapons to Mexico .

  • GOP report: Justice officials were on top of Fast and Furious

    Published February 02, 2012

    Top Department of Justice officials had extensive knowledge of and involvement in Operation Fast and Furious, claims a new report  released Thursday, hours before Attorney General Eric Holder's scheduled testimony to the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.

  • Former DEA chief says 3 other federal agencies knew about 'Furious'

    Published February 10, 2012

    While criticism surrounding Operation Fast and Furious has so far focused on the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, three other federal agencies knew about the operation and some tried to stop it, according to the former chief of the U. S. Drug Enforcement Administration in Tucson.

  • Lawmakers question Justice investigator's independence in Fast and Furious probe

    Published March 16, 2012

    Two top lawmakers are questioning the independence of the Obama administration investigator tasked with probing Fast and Furious, saying it appears her office is choosing not to interview high-level political employees in the Justice Department. 

  • Family demands to know if weapons used to kill ICE agent could have been seized before they crossed into Mexico

    Published March 29, 2012

    The family of a murdered U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent is demanding to know if U.S. agencies could have seized the weapons used to kill him before they crossed the border into Mexico.

  • Main suspect in Operation Fast and Furious arrested twice before, report shows

    Published April 14, 2012

    Police records show the chief target of Operation Fast and Furious, a man pursued by ATF agents for 18 months, was actually arrested twice in 2010 for gun and drug violations, but released.

  • Top ICE figure pleads guilty in brazen, $600G scam

    Published May 01, 2012

    In a brazen criminal scheme to defraud taxpayers, one of the highest-ranking officials in the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency pleaded guilty Tuesday in federal court to helping embezzle $600,000 from the federal government.

  • EXCLUSIVE: 'Fast and Furious' whistleblower says he's 'disappointed' one year later

    Published June 18, 2012

    More than a year after ATF Special Agent John Dodson first blew the whistle on the scandal known as Operation Fast and Furious, Dodson says he is "disheartened and disappointed" by the congressional investigation and Attorney General Eric Holder’s handling of the botched gunrunning probe.

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    Obama's Project GunRunner and gun control
    (Date Posted:06/24/2012 6:05 PM)

    Seems Vanderboegh is pretty on target if he notes criticism from LSM media. If what he and others have posted and discovered was bogus, LSM wouldn't even give it a glance. Watch for LSM people start to impugn the character of Vanderboegh, Codrea and others, including the boots on the ground agents.
    MSNBC Rachel Maddow and New York Times Herbert were doing their lil' best to just get this thrown into the wacko conspriracy files. And while trying to sway it off the people who have been killed by the guns that 0bama and Co were responsible for, they do what the Democrats on the Oversight Committee repeatedly have done - try to swing it to why we need more gun laws; instead of investigating what happened, and who authorized it.

    Just keep in mind March 30, 2011, "I just want you to know that we are working on it,” Brady recalled the president telling them. “We have to go through a few processes, but under the radar.”

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    Obama's Project GunRunner and gun control
    (Date Posted:06/26/2012 8:30 PM)

    Always keep in mind March 30 2011:
    During the meeting, President Obama dropped in and, according to Sarah Brady, brought up the issue of gun control, “to fill us in that it was very much on his agenda,” she said.

    “I just want you to know that we are working on it,” Brady recalled the president telling them. “We have to go through a few processes, but under the radar.”

    President Bush had tried Project GunRunner in coordination with the Mexican government to catch the strawbuyers and cartel members. It was actually to deal with the increasing growth of violence from the drug cartels and terrorists coming across the southern border. When they saw it wasn't working, Bush and the Mexican government shut it down.

    Under Obama and Co. Project GunRunner was revived and working again under the radar of the American public. It was without the knowledge of, consent of, or coordination with, the Mexican government. And it's purpose wasn't to catch the strawbuyers and cartel members. ATF and ICE agents were ordered to not intercept the runners or the guns.

    The boots-on-the-ground ATF, ICE and Border agents were protesting against the law being broken. ATF and ICE agents who are not playing along were and still are being moved. Some have been placed in danger with their personal information 'accidentally' made public.

    The LSM has gone all this time, including during the congressional hearings, ignoring all of this or deliberately not reporting any of it. There have been bloggers, forums and a couple news agencies that have kept up with it. The main LSM has now only had any stories on it since the Contempt charge is facing AG Holder. 

    As I have previously said, this forum for ATF agents has a history of what happened. Not all of the past posts are still there as the forum has been hacked a few times. It was also blocked on any computers in ATF offices.

    The forum for ATF agents is Clean Up ATF
    This forum has been mentioned in the news. 1desertrat has been mentioned in particular in the hearings. Two emails obtained during the congressional hearings pertained to 1desertrat.

    On December 22, 2010, after Agent Brian Terry's murder, “1desertrat” posted the following to the “CLEANUP ATF” website:
    "Word is that curious George Gillett the Phoenix ASAC stepped on it again. Allegedly he has approved more than 500 AR-15 type rifles from Tucson and Phoenix cases to be “walked” to Mexico. Appears that ATF may be one of the largest suppliers of assault rifles to the Mexican cartels! One of these rifles is rumored to have been linked to the recent killing of a Border Patrol Officer in Nogales, AZ. Can anyone confirm this information?"

    In January 2011, Ken Melson was Acting ATF Director. Steve Rubenstein was the Bureau’s chief council. I.A. is Internal Affairs and by then was also becoming a punishing tactic against agents who didn't go along with higher up superiors.

    This January 2011 e-mail exchange between then acting ATF Director Ken Melson and the Bureau’s chief council Steve Rubenstein is one of the many kinds of documents that the Congressional Judiciary and the Oversight committees have subpoened from the Justice Department and it's agents.

    Rubenstein, as Chief council, just quotes department Standards of Conduct rules in response to a previous email sent to him from Melson. Melson is only worried about Potential unauthorized disclosure of official information.

    Melson’s testimony in congress was that no one told him of Operation Fast and Furious and he didn't know about guns being “walked” into Mexico. That might be believable if this email and others had not surfaced. If he knew nothing about what was going on then, why would his email only be concerned with unauthorized disclosure of official information and some sort of disciplinary action for 1desertrat for talking about it?

    If he knew nothing about it, he and Rubenstein would have been going nutso about 1desertrat saying " ... rifles from Tucson and Phoenix cases to be “walked” to Mexico". As ATF Director, Melson would have been demanding answers to what was going on with an operation that he had not been kept up to speed on. Instead, he is handing it off to I.A.


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    (Date Posted:07/01/2012 12:17 AM)

    The gun dealer is Andre Howard, who ran the Lone Wolf Trading Company. the agent is ATF Agent Hope MacAllister. 
    Howard's gun dealership had been cooperating with the ATF in "Fast and Furious.

    Dealer: He's (Dodson) more toxic than you realize. I can tell you casue I asked him. How
    much of this f-----g file did you release?

    Agent: Mmmhm

    Dealer: He said basically the underlying case file. I said okay, who'd you release it to? F-----g Patrick Leahy! Ok? Wasn't just Grassley it was Leahy alright? Leahy as we both know has adjourned this inquiry right now okay with no plans to reconvene it. So your people were successful on that end.

    Agent: Right.

    Dealer: Obviously that's good. However these other idiots from

    Agent: Yeah I saw that. The House?

    Dealer: Yeah and that I don't know. What is troublesome with this I expected Darrell Issa's signature to be on this it wasn't. He's your biggest thorn, he hates Holder.

    Agent: Yeah. Where's he out of?

    Dealer: Darrell Issa?

    Agent: Yeah.

    Dealer: California.

    Agent: California.

    Dealer: Lamar Smith you know's out of Texas, I don't know. Holder has to respond to this tomorrow.

    Agent: Yeah he's gonna respond.

    Dealer: I know he is. And I can assure you the media isn't gonna like his response because basically it's gonna mirror what he's told Grassley.

    Agent: Yeah.

    Dealer: He can't deviate.

    Agent: Well if, I mean I've seen a rough copy at least of what our US Attorney here has sent up. Whether or not he has the b---s to actually use it or not, I doubt it. But I mean it's pretty aggressive. Um. The way I see it our local US Attorney is extremely aggressive. When it gets to DC..

    Dealer: Who Emory?

    Agent: No...THE US Attorney.

    Dealer: Burke, yeah, used to work under Clinton. Guy used to work under Clinton. Talking about Burke?

    Agent: MMhmm.

    Dealer: yeah well

    Agent: But the problem is once it gets to dc it just gets... well you know


    Dealer: Discombobulated that's a good term for it yeah I get that.

    Dealer: Let me tell you you got more people out there now talking about this f-----g thing than anything I've ever seen...(unintell.) ... they're not shutting the hell up

    Agent: (unintell)

    Dealer: and that goes from DHS to f-----g FBI to everybody...

    Agent: Yeah.

    Dealer: I'm hearing hypothetically on every fringe

    Agent: Yeah.

    Dealer: Thru third parties and I can assure you they're all like what the hell are they nuts?


    Dealer: But you have got to put the word out there to all the departments tell the f------g FBI shut the f--- up. (whispering)

    Agent: FBI'S got their own problems, trust me.

    Dealer: I know I hear.

    Agent: They've got their own problems.

    Dealer: Hypothetically.

    Agent: If anybody's gonna get sued it's gonna be the FBI in my opinion.


    Dealer: What is it with the FBI they just have a h--- on for you guys or what?

    Agent: The FBI's got their own problems. Like I said they're focusing on our problems they should probably turn it inward, cause they got their own problems right now.

    Dealer: That ain't no lie.

    Agent: So.. so hahaha.


    Dealer: What's Holders' office got to say about this?

    Agent: Well like I said they're supposed to come out with little more um b----y statement than they have in the past, so...

    Dealer: God they're (intell)

    Agent: I mean at some point they're gonna say have to say Grassley you're just gonna have to sit your a-- down. I mean that or they're gonna have to (unintell). I mean like I said my understanding is he can't call a hearing. Somebody from the majority party has got to call a congressional hearing and as of right now...

    Dealer: Patrick Leahy's an a----e, you know that. He gets ahold of something he's like a dog with a bone.

    Agent: As of right now we don't have any info that's occurred. So...

    Dealer: No, not now, but

    Agent: I know there was a presentation given to Judiciary committee and everybody aside from Grassley is is satisfied. At least at this point.

    Dealer: So they say you know I don't trust em...

    Agent: No but I mean that's all I've's all (unintell.)

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    (Date Posted:07/01/2012 6:03 PM)

    Deputy Attorney General David Ogden news conference March 24 2009
    At news conference in March of 2009,  Deputy Attorney General David Ogden, under Holder, said Obama ordered and Holder expanded “Project Gunrunner” in Mexico as part of the Department of Justice’s Southwest Border Initiative. Fast and Furious became operational under Project Gunrunner in 2009.

    Department of Justice Announces Resources for Fight Against Mexican Drug Cartels
    Tuesday, March 24, 2009

    WASHINGTON – Today Deputy Attorney General David Ogden announced increased efforts and reallocation of DOJ personnel to combat Mexican drug cartels in the United States and to help Mexican law enforcement battle cartels in their own country. Deputy Attorney General Ogden was joined in announcing a comprehensive response to the situation on the Southwest border by Department of Homeland Secretary Janet Napolitano and Deputy Secretary of State Jim Steinberg.

    "For more than a quarter century, U.S. law enforcement agencies have recognized that the best way to fight the most sophisticated and powerful criminal organizations is through intelligence-based investigations to target the greatest threats," said Deputy Attorney General David Ogden. "The Department’s Mexican Cartel Strategy confronts those cartels as criminal organizations. As we’ve found with other large criminal groups, if you take their money and lock up their leaders, you can loosen their grips on the vast organizations they use to carry out their criminal enterprises. The Department of Justice is committed to taking advantage of all available resources to target the Mexican cartels and to help our Mexican counterparts in their courageous effort to take on these criminal organizations."

    Today the United States announced it will be investing $700 million this year in enhancing Mexican law enforcement and judicial capacity and working closely to coordinate efforts against the cartels. The Department of Justice, through the FBI, U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), U.S. Marshals Service (USMS), the Criminal Division and the Office of Justice Programs, will work to investigate and prosecute cartel members for their illegal activities in the United State and with law enforcement colleagues to disrupt illegal flows of weapons and bulk cash to Mexico.

    The Mexican Cartel Strategy, led by the Deputy Attorney General, uses federal prosecutor-led task forces that bring together all law enforcement components to identify, disrupt and dismantle the Mexican drug cartels through investigation, prosecution and extradition of their key leaders and facilitators, and seizure and forfeiture of their assets. The Department is increasing its focus on investigations and prosecutions of the southbound smuggling of guns and cash that fuel the violence and corruption and attacking the cartels in Mexico itself, in partnership with the Mexican Attorney General’s Office (PGR) and the Secretariat of Public Security (SSP).

    DEA, already the largest U.S. drug enforcement presence in Mexico with 11 offices in that country, is placing 16 new positions in its Southwest border field divisions. With this increase, 29 percent of DEA’s domestic agent positions (1,180 agents) are now allocated to its Southwest border field divisions. DEA is also forming four additional Mobile Enforcement Teams (METs) to specifically target Mexican methamphetamine trafficking operations and associated violence, both along the border and in U.S. cities impacted by the cartels.

    ATF is increasing its efforts by relocating 100 personnel to the Houston Field Division in the next 45 days as part of a new ATF intelligence-driven effort, known as Gunrunner Impact Teams (GRITs). The teams will focus ATF’s violent crime-fighting and firearms trafficking expertise, along with its regulatory authority and strategic partnerships to combat violence along the U.S.-Mexico border.

    As part of the Recovery Act funding, ATF received $10 million for Project Gunrunner efforts, aimed at disrupting arms trafficking between the U.S. and Mexico, to include hiring 25 new special agents, six industry operations investigators, three intelligence research specialists and three investigative analysts. The funding will establish three permanent field offices, dedicated to firearms trafficking investigations, in McAllen, Texas; El Centro, Calif.; and Las Cruces, N.M (including a satellite office in Roswell, N.M.). Project Gunrunner has resulted in ATF referring more than 1,500 defendants for prosecution involving more than 12,000 weapons.

    ATF will also continue its eTrace initiative with Mexican officials, which allows law enforcement agencies to identify trafficking trends of drug trafficking organizations and other criminal organizations funneling guns into Mexico from the United States, as well as to develop investigative leads in order to stop firearms traffickers and straw purchasers (people who knowingly purchase guns for prohibited persons) before they cross the border. In FY08, Mexico submitted more than 7,500 recovered guns for tracing, showing that most originated in Texas, Arizona and California.

    The FBI is stepping up its efforts along the Southwest border by creating a Southwest Intelligence Group (SWIG), which will serve as a clearinghouse of all FBI activities involving Mexico. The FBI will also increase its focus on public corruption, kidnappings and extortion relating to Southwest border issues.

    Already, the FBI has undertaken successful initiatives in Mexico and Central America, including the Central American Fingerprint Exchange (CAFÉ) initiative. The FBI will continue this initiative, which was developed to collect, store, and integrate biometric data from El Salvador, Guatemala, Belize, Honduras, and the Mexican state of Chiapas into a central database accessible to U.S. law enforcement, as well as the Transnational Anti-Gang initiative, which coordinates the sharing of gang intelligence between the U.S. and El Salvador.

    USMS has stepped-up its efforts along the Southwest border, deploying 94 additional Deputy U.S. Marshals during the last eight months and sending four additional deputies to Mexico City to assist the Marshals Service Mexico City Foreign Field Office.

    USMS is increasing its efforts in the Southwest border region under the Mexico Investigative Liaison Program, a cross-border violent fugitive apprehension initiative where USMS personnel, through daily contact with Mexican law enforcement, provide a rapid international response to law enforcement agencies on both sides of the border in the apprehension of fugitives who commit crimes and flee across the international border.

    Twenty-five new Criminal Investigators-Asset Forfeiture Specialists have been placed in USMS asset forfeiture units in the field.  The new positions are unique in that they will be solely dedicated to the USMS Asset Forfeiture Division and will support U.S. Attorneys Offices and investigative agencies in investigations of cartels and other large-scale investigations.

    In addition, DOJ’s Organized Drug Enforcement Task Forces Program (OCDETF) is adding analyst personnel to its strike force capacity along the Southwest border and the Office of Justice Programs will be investing $30 million in stimulus funding to assist with state and local law enforcement to combat narcotics activity coming through the southern border and in high intensity drug trafficking areas. State and local law enforcement organizations along the border can apply for COPS and Byrne Justice Assistance grants from the $3 billion provided for those programs in the stimulus package


    Deputy Attorney General David W. Ogden Speaks at Project Gunrunner Press Conference HOUSTON ~ Thursday, October 1, 2009

    Good morning. I am happy to be here today with ATF Acting Director Melson and our partners in state and local law enforcement to highlight the real successes of Project Gunrunner and announce our plans to build upon those accomplishments. This administration and this Justice Department have made protecting the integrity of our Southwest Border a top priority. That means stemming the tide of illegal drugs and illegal immigration across the border into the United States, and it means continuing our efforts here in Houston and along the border to stop the flow of illegal firearms from the United States to the drug cartels in Mexico.

    Since March, when we announced our Southwest Border Strategy, we have taken concrete steps to disrupt and dismantle these cartels. Just last month, in Brooklyn and Chicago, we announced major drug-trafficking charges against 43 individuals including leaders, members, and associates from a number of these deadly drug cartels such as the Sinaloa Cartel, the Federation, the Juarez Cartel, and Los Gueros. As we know all too well, the cartels’ distribution networks in the United States help move these dangerous drugs from the border to neighborhoods across this country.

    In addition to bringing these intelligence-driven, prosecutor-led cases against cartel leaders and associates, the President’s National Southwest Border Counternarcotics Strategy includes millions in Recovery Act funds to fight crime and drug trafficking, a new arms trafficking working group, and new formal agreements with our partners at the Department of Homeland Security, law enforcement, and the government of Mexico to increase cooperation that is vitally needed as we carry out this fight on several fronts.

    Our colleagues in some areas of Mexico face unprecedented levels of violence, due in large part to their valiant efforts to confront these dangerous and powerful cartels and their success in doing so. As efforts to disrupt and dismantle these powerful cartels gain momentum, the cartels have struck back with violence and terror. But this is not a problem Mexico alone must face. The drugs flow north into our communities and contribute to violence here and harm public health and safety and we know weapons from the United States flow south and are used in these violent attacks. So we must stand with Mexico as strong partners. It is the right thing to do and the only way to win this fight.

    And thanks to the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, ATF is building an infrastructure to combat violent crime and illegal firearms trafficking along our Southwest Border as part of Project Gunrunner, a comprehensive strategy to combat firearms-related violence by the drug cartels.

    We intend to reduce the availability of guns to Mexican drug trafficking organizations. And we are accomplishing this goal by targeting those who enable the violence: the illegal firearms traffickers.

    One component of Project Gunrunner is the Gun Runner Impact Teams or GRITs. These teams, working with federal, state, and local partners as well as the Mexican authorities, follow leads generated from crime guns recovered in Mexico. They use a combination of inspections of Federal firearms licensees or "FFLs," and investigations of both FFLs, and their customers, to target and disrupt gun trafficking groups and organizations who are supplying the drug cartels.

    Intelligence gathered by GRITs since their inception in April 2008 revealed that the majority of crime guns recovered in Mexico traced back to Southern Texas. In response to that important information, we deployed 100 additional ATF personnel to its Houston Field Division to form additional Impact Teams bringing new focus on this key source area. The new GRITs tracked every lead we had tying guns used in cartel violence to sources here in South Texas, and developed new ones.

    This campaign enabled ATF to pursue 700 backlogged leads and to develop and pursue 400 additional leads. The new GRITs also performed a surge of inspections of FFLs, here in South Texas. We learned that some gun dealers here were failing to conduct background checks, failing to keep tabs on their inventories, or failing to require the proper paperwork from their customers. These kinds of failures facilitate the illegal gun traffic to the cartels. Through inspections lawful gun dealers are incentivized to take greater care and are educated on how to identify suspicious purchasers and potential traffickers – creating new key sources of intelligence.

    The GRITs also opened 276 full-scale investigations – that is more investigations in one four month period than the Houston Field Division had opened in any of the three previous calendar years. The new investigations, many of which are ongoing, revealed and disrupted firearms trafficking rings tied to specific Mexican drug trafficking organizations, such as the Gulf Cartel and Los Zetas. During the surge, the GRITs learned that many of these rings operate by recruiting teams of straw purchasers who accumulate numerous firearms by buying them from multiple FFLs and gun shows. Then, traffickers smuggle the guns into Mexico. In many cases the GRITs have traced the guns used in criminal activity in Mexico to these firearm trafficking rings.

    In the course of these investigations, the GRITs seized almost 450 illegal firearms and our state and local partners here in South Texas seized approximately 170 more based on leads developed by the GRITs. The GRITs also took significant amounts of illegally possessed ammunition and drugs off the streets.

    The leads and investigations developed during this surge have disrupted firearms traffickers and will undoubtedly result in prosecutions. And their impact goes farther: they gathered invaluable intelligence regarding the sources of the cartels’ illegal firearms, the methods used to traffic them, trafficking routes, smuggling methods, purchasing strategies, and recruiting strategies for straw purchasers. This intelligence will help solve future firearms crimes, detect illegal firearms traffickers, and reduce the international movement of illegal guns.

    The surge has also sent a strong message to FFLs in this key region that they must be vigilant in keeping track of their inventory, performing background checks, keeping accurate records, and paying careful attention to any suspicious behavior by their customers.

    The surge represented by this Houston GRIT initiative now concludes as these added personnel return to vital duties elsewhere in the country. I want to thank each of them for the Attorney General, the Department, and this country for their hard word these last 120 days. They leave behind a better situation and leave us with a much clearer picture of the illegal firearms trafficking activity that we face. Armed with the intelligence that they have developed, the Houston Field Division is much better equipped to continue toward its goal of keeping U.S. firearms out of the hands of the Mexican drug cartels.

    Many of the personnel who return to other duties are being replaced by new personnel. Again, this is thanks to the Recovery Act which provided Project Gunrunner with $10 million to hire special agents, industry operations investigators and others to staff new offices to target the trafficker that places the gun into the hands of the violent criminal.

    The first 20 new special agents graduate from the ATF Training Academy on October 15th.

    These agents – along with 17 other Recovery Act funded ATF employees – will play an important role in our efforts to stem the flow of illegal firearms to the drug trafficking organizations in Mexico. They are being added to ATF’s resident core of agents and other personnel who continue the vital work of Project Gunrunner, as well as teams from FBI, DEA, ICE, CBP, and our State and local partners, who form our team along the border.

    The Department of Justice and its U.S. Attorneys are committed to working with that team, as well as our Mexican partners, to prosecute defendants charged with acts of violent crime, drug and human trafficking, the illegal smuggling of cash and financial instruments, and the trafficking of firearms.

    Together we are determined to make a difference in the safety of our Southwest Border and throughout our country. Thank you


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    FBI Form 4473, Fast and Furious

    After months of pretending that “Fast and Furious” was a botched surveillance operation of illegal gun-running spearheaded by the ATF and the US attorney’s office in Phoenix, it turns out that the government itself was selling guns to the bad guys.

    Agent John Dodson was ordered to buy four Draco pistols for cash and even got a letter from his supervisor, David Voth, authorizing a federally licensed gun dealer to sell him the guns without bothering about the necessary paperwork.

    “Please accept this letter in lieu of completing an ATF Form 4473 for the purchase of four (4) CAI, Model Draco, 7.62x39 mm pistols, by Special Agent John Dodson,” read the June 1, 2010, letter. “These aforementioned pistols will be used by Special Agent Dodson in furtherance of performance of his official duties.”

    On orders, Dodson then sold the guns to known criminals, who first stashed them away and then -- deliberately unhindered by the ATF or any other agency -- whisked them off to Mexico.

    People were killed with Fast and Furious weapons, including at least two American agents and hundreds of Mexicans. And the taxpayers picked up the bill.

    So where’s the outrage?

    There’s none from the feds. Attorney General Eric Holder has consistently stonewalled Rep. Darrell Issa, Sen. Chuck Grassley and other congressional investigators.

    In a constantly evolving set of lies, Holder has denied knowing anything about Fast and Furious while at the same time withholding documents from the House and Senate committees looking into the mess while muzzling some witnesses and transferring others.

    Justice calls the allegations about Dodson’s operation “false.” But Grassley says that’s “a lie,” as he told Greta van Susteren the other day. “The ATF ordered this ATF agent to purchase these guns and in turn sell them, and supposedly track them,” he said. “But he was a lone wolf in the operation -- they wouldn’t give him any help for 24-hour surveillance.”

    "Dodson was given this undercover assignment by Voth," said the source, "to purchase weapons directly and provide them to the smugglers. He was operating under cover, pretending to be a 'straw buyer.'" He continued, "I think Dodson demanded the letter from Voth to cover both himself and the FFL (Federal Firearm Licensee). He didn't want to be hung out to dry" by Voth.

    Voth letter
    In a letter dated June 1, 2010, then Phoenix ATF Group VII supervisor David Voth instructed a Federal Firearms Licensee in Arizona as follows:

    Dear Sir,
    Per Section 925(a)(1) of the Gun Control Act (GCA) exempts law enforcement agencies from the transportation, shipment, receipt, or importation controls of the GCA when firearms are to be used for the official business of the agency.

    Please accept this letter in lieu of completing an ATF Form 4473 for the purchase of four (4) CAI, Model Draco, 7.62x39 mm pistols, by Special Agent John Dodson. These aforementioned pistols will be used by Special Agent Dodson in furtherance of the performance of his official duties. In addition, Special Agent Dodson has not been convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence. If you have any questions, you may contact me at telephone number 602-605-6501.


    (Signature) David Voth ATF Group Supervisor Phoenix Group VII

    In the lower left-hand margin of the one-page letter is the hand-written notation:

    "Picked guns up 6/10/10 Paid Cash"

    "Paid Cash" is underlined as Agent Dodsen knew DOJ would go after him when Project Gunrunner started to come to light.

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    Shall we pause for a moment to imagine the media reaction if a Republican administration launched a massive cover-up of a political operation that killed hundreds of people, and put thousands of still-unaccounted-for guns in the hands of criminals… used executive privilege claims to stonewall investigators… and then rewarded a loyal foot soldier by allowing him to double-dip on salary, while taking a high-level job with a big campaign donor?  Paramedics would be using defrib paddles to revive network news anchors, after they suffered strokes during their round-the-clock America-in-crisis breaking news coverage.

    William McMahon, former Deputy Assistant Director for Field Operations with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, was named as a top figure in the Obama Administration’s deadly “Fast and Furious” scandal by congressional investigators.  He was also accused of giving false testimony to Congress.

    McMahon has been on paid leave for the past five months.  But don’t worry, he hasn’t been idle.  In fact, he’s got a full time private sector executive position, working for one of those eeevil financial institutions the Obama Administration is always claiming they want to crack down on.

    That’s right: you, the taxpaying sucker, are forking over McMahon’s government salary while he’s simultaneously raking in big bucks as “Executive Director of the Global Security and Investigations Group” at JP Morgan in the Phillipines.  That way, he’ll be able to collect his plush government retirement benefits, even as he gets a half-year head start on his post-Fast and Furious private sector car

    Additionally, he'll be unavailable like some of the other DoJ, ATF, ICE, DHS people who are involved in this who were also shipped overseas in other department reassignments.

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    (Date Posted:09/21/2012 8:13 AM)

    As the report indicates, we reviewed over 100,000 documents and
    interviewed over 130 witnesses, many on multiple occasions. We decided what
    documents to request, and what interviews to conduct. The witnesses we
    interviewed served at all levels of the Department, ranging from the current and former Attorneys General, to the line agents serving in the field offices in Phoenix and Tucson, Arizona. Very few witnesses refused our request to be
    interviewed, and we have noted those instances in our report. The Justice
    Department provided us with access to the documents we requested, including
    post-February 4 material concerning the Department’s representations to
    We operated with complete and total independence in our search for the
    truth, and the decision about what to cover in this report and the conclusions
    that we reached were made by me and my Office, and by no one else.

    I am pleased that we have been able to put forward to the Congress and
    the American people a full and complete recitation of the facts that we found,
    and the conclusions that we reached, with minimal redactions by the
    (p.2 of 15)

    ... Department to our report. The Administration made no redactions for
    Executive Privilege, even though our report evaluates in detail and reaches
    conclusions about the Department’s post-February 4 actions in responding to
    Congress. Additionally, at our request, the Department has agreed to seek
    court authorization to unredact as much of the wiretap information as possible
    (consistent with privacy and ongoing law enforcement interests). If the court
    agrees to the Department’s request, we will shortly issue a revised version of
    the report with this material unredacted.
    (p.3 of 15)

    We reviewed all 14 wiretap affidavits in both Operation Wide Receiver and
    Operation Fast and Furious and concluded that the affidavits in both cases
    included information that would have caused a prosecutor who was focused on
    the question of investigative tactics, particularly one who was already sensitive to the issue of gun walking, to have questions about ATF’s conduct of the investigations. However, during our review we found no evidence that any of
    the 5 Deputy Assistant Attorneys General (DAAG) who reviewed the 14 wiretap
    applications in connection with Operations Wide Receiver and Fast and Furious identified any issues or raised any concerns about the information contained in the applications. In light of the explicit statutory assignment of responsibility for authorizing wiretap applications, we were concerned by the
    statements of the three DAAGs we interviewed that they did not regularly
    (p.7 of 15)

    ... review wiretap applications, instead relying on summary memoranda they
    received. Our report recommends that DAAGs should be required to conduct a
    review of wiretap applications and affidavits that is sufficient to enable them to form a personal judgment that the application meets the statutory criteria.

    We further found that given DAAG Weinstein’s discovery in March and April
    2010 of “gun walking” issues in Operation Wide Receiver, coupled with the
    information he learned about Operation Fast and Furious in April and May
    2010, his review of the first cover memorandum to the wiretap application and
    affidavit that he received in Operation Fast and Furious in May 2010 should
    have caused him to read the affidavit and ask questions about the operational
    details of Operation Fast and Furious.

    Sufficient information was available to ATF’s senior leadership, up to and
    including Acting Director Melson, about the investigative tactics used and the
    corresponding risk to public safety, yet ATF leadership repeatedly failed to act in a timely fashion on this information. Further, ATF senior officials ignored warnings about gun walking from their own employees.

    We determined that, by the first months of 2010, ATF Headquarters’ deference to the Phoenix Field Division imperiled the agency’s obligation to protect the public. We concluded that ATF’s senior leadership should have recognized that its agents were failing to take adequate enforcement action as straw purchasing activity continued at an alarming pace, and should have instituted measures to promptly conclude the case, even if over the objections of its Phoenix Field Division or the U.S. Attorney’s Office. We also determined that ATF’s senior leadership failed to seek timely closure of the investigation, even after its Deputy Director recognized the need to conclude the investigative phase and asked for an “exit strategy.” We found that Deputy Director Hoover and Acting Director Melson did not review the exit strategy until 2011, after the Fast and Furious investigation was publicly announced on January 25, 2011.
    (p.8 of 15)

    Similarly, when stories appeared on the Internet alleging that ATF had allowed firearms to “walk” to Mexico and that one of the firearms may have been linked to the death of a federal law enforcement officer, Acting Director Melson expressed concern about ATF employees leaking information and forwarded the matter to ATF Internal Affairs for investigation after being assured by four or five supervisors that the allegation on the Internet was false.
    (p.9 of 15)

    Review of ATF's Operation Fast and Furious (Redacted)


    Deputy Assistant Attorney General for the Criminal Division Weinstein resigned after the IG investigation. Weinstein disputed the report that marked him as the highest-ranking DOJ employee in a position to stop the program.

    Criminal Division head Lanny Breuer admonished by Holder

    ATF official Bill McMahon is on paid administrative leave, collecting a six-figure government salary while working for a top financial services firm, J.P. Morgan in the Philippines

    DOJ official Monty Wilkinson, Holder has decided not to take any action against Wilkinson

    Deputy Director Hoover  suspended

    DOJ official Gary Grindler, Holder’s Chief of Staff, is also known in the Department as a maladministrator who directed or tolerated political appointees to engage in vindictive retaliation against employees who reported internal abuse and misconduct. It is believed that several EEO complaints are pending against Grindler’s office from the time he served as Acting Deputy Attorney General. Holder has decided not to take any action against Grindler.

    U.S. Assistant Attorney General Ronald Weich, who has served as Attorney General Eric Holder’s emissary in congressional communications, resigned and became dean of the University of Baltimore School of Law

    U.S. Attorney Dennis Burke, a former senior advisor to Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, resigned, submitting his letter of resignation to President Barack Obama August 2011

    Acting Director Melson retired after the report came down

    Federal prosecutor Emory Hurley moved from the Criminal Division in the U.S. Attorney’s office in Phoenix” to the civil division.

    At least three White House officials received email updates on ‘Operation Fast and Furious'. White House former National Security Advisor Kevin O'Reilly communicated about gun trafficking efforts with then-Special Agent in Charge of ATF's Phoenix office William Newell as early as summer of 2010. O'Reilly, now assigned to the State Department was sent to Iraq when he was called to testify before Congress; Dan Restrepo, special assistant to the President and senior Latin American advisory was released from his job and joined the private sector; and Greg Gatjanis, a national security official were also briefed on gun trafficking efforts that included Fast and Furious.;lst;2

    Some are still receiving their salaries. All are still getting their government benifits. Who is being charged and prosecuted for any of this? None of these people.

    There should at least be charges for violation of the Whistleblower law. Internal Affairs was called in to intimidate and harrass the agents reporting the illegal acts of guns being allowed to go to drug cartel members. In addition to cartel members getting the guns, the Iranian Red Guard that are with the drug cartels are also getting the weapons.

    Executive Privilege was slapped down to stop investigation of communications between WH and DoJ.   

    AG Holder gave a speech in 2009 on Project Gunrunner. Is it plausible that he never ever followed up on briefings on such an expansive program?

    Attorney General Eric Holder at the Mexico/United States Arms Trafficking Conference
    Last week, our administration launched a major new effort to break the backs of the cartels.  My department is committing 100 new ATF personnel to the Southwest border in the next 100 days to supplement our ongoing Project Gunrunner, DEA is adding 16 new positions on the border, as well as mobile enforcement teams, and the FBI is creating a new intelligence group focusing on kidnapping and extortion.  DHS is making similar commitments, as Secretary Napolitano will detail.

     But as today’s conference has emphasized, the problem of arms trafficking will not be stopped at the border alone.  Rather, as our experts emphasized, this is a problem that must be met as part of a comprehensive attack against the cartels – an attack in depth, on both sides of the border, that focuses on the leadership and assets of the cartel.  This is the type of full-bore, prosecution-driven approach that the U.S. Department of Justice took to dismantle La Cosa Nostra – once the most powerful organized crime group operating in the United States.

    All of these people KNEW what was taking place. Holder claims he didn’t know about Fast and Furious until the spring of 2011. Obama parces words and says neither he nor Holder directly authorized such an operation, even after Holder, Napolitano, and Clinton have speeches on it at conferences? It is expected that we believe that the ones close to Holder and 0bama never informed them or even metioned what was taking place? Holder and 0bama were the only ones not in the loop?


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    (Date Posted:10/01/2012 11:03 AM)

    Univision is a Spanish-language television network in the United States. It has the largest audience of Spanish-language television viewers according to Nielsen ratings.
    It is now running programs on the 0bama Administration's Fast and Furious.

    The Untold Story Behind The "Fast and Furious" Scandal

    Behind the Scenes in the Fast and Furious Investigation

    Univision News Investigation Reveals Additional Weapons Found In Fast and Furious Scandal

    Cartel Leader Behind Mexican Massacres Linked to Operation Fast and Furious


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    Obama's Project GunRunner and gun control
    (Date Posted:10/15/2012 9:25 PM)

    Well, lookey who is home from Iraq.

    Recently, Department of Justice Inspector General Michael Horowitz said it was "impossible" to get any information about Kevin O'Reilly's role in the operation from the White House during the internal DOJ investigation of the scandal.

    Kevin O’Reilly, Uncooperative Witness on Fast and Furious, Returns to U.S. From Sudden Posting to Iraq

    Obama administration employee Kevin O’Reilly -- who congressional investigators called “the link connecting the White House to the [Fast and Furious] scandal” -- is back in the United States now after abruptly leaving his White House job to work in Iraq in 2011 after emails concerning him and Fast and Furious had surfaced.

    O'Reilly left the United States in August 2011, shortly after his knowledge of the gun-walking program was publicized during a congressional hearing on July 26.

    O’Reilly has so far refused to cooperate with the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, which recently threatened to subpoena him. He also refused to cooperate with the Justice Department’s Office of Inspector General, which investigated the program and recently released its findings.

    Both the House committee and the Inspector General's office sought to interview O'Reilly about Fast and Furious  but the White House refused to grant him permission to be interviewed.

    O’Reilly recently returned to Washington, D.C., to work in the State Department’s Bureau of Western Hemisphere Affairs, a State Department official confirmed to

    O’Reilly previously served as director of North American Affairs for the White House National Security Staff (NSS), where he had a 2010 e-mail exchange with William Newell, the special agent in charge of the Phoenix field division of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which oversaw Operation Fast and Furious.

    In August 2011 -- after the e-mails were first discussed at a July 26 congressional hearing -- O’Reilly was named as the senior director of International Narcotics and Law Enforcement Programs in Iraq, a State Department position.

    The State Department official told that O’Reilly’s reassignment to Iraq from the White House “was a standard foreign service career rotation that had been planned for months in advance of his detail to the NSS.” The State Department could not confirm O’Reilly’s new title at the State Department.

    The State Department official claimed to be unaware of an assertion by Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) and Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa), who said someone else had been selected for the job in Iraq before O’Reilly was “suddenly” transferred there.

    “O’Reilly’s sudden transfer to Baghdad occurred just days after the aforementioned e-mails with William Newell were produced to the Committee and Newell testified about them before Congress,” Issa, the chairman of the House Oversight panel, and Grassley, the ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, wrote in a Sept. 27 letter to O’Reilly’s attorney Thomas G. Connolly.

    “Additionally, we have learned that O’Reilly took the place of a previously selected individual—an individual who had gone through a competitive application process and thorough vetting process, had the necessary qualifications, and whose spouse was already in Baghdad in anticipation of the individual’s arrival—to serve as the head of the Police Development Program.”

    Connolly did not return phone calls or e-mails over the last week. unsuccessfully attempted to reach him again on Wednesday.

    The Sept. 27 letter from Issa and Grassley said O’Reilly’s cooperation was key to the Fast and Furious investigation.

    “By not interviewing O’Reilly, the OIG (Justice Department’s inspector-general) could not fully determine the role the White House played in Fast and Furious,” Issa and Grassley wrote. “Given that O’Reilly was the link connecting the White House to the scandal, and that the President subsequently asserted executive privilege over documents pertaining to Fast and Furious, it is imperative that the American people get to the bottom of O’Reilly’s involvement in Fast and Furious.”

    O’Reilly reportedly was willing to talk to congressional investigators over the phone while he was working in Iraq, according to a March 28, 2012 letter from Issa and Grassley to the White House. But White House counsel Kathryn Ruemmler responded in an April 5, 2012 letter that “there is an insufficient basis to support the request to interview Mr. O’Reilly.”

    The inspector-general’s report  also said, “We were unable to further investigate the communications between Newell and O’Reilly because O’Reilly declined our request for an interview,” said the IG report.

    “Newell told us that he had known O’Reilly during previous field office assignments and that the two shared information about firearms trafficking issues relevant to their geographic areas of responsibility,” the IG report said. “According to Newell, O’Reilly was also friends with ATF’s White House Liaison, and through that relationship O’Reilly would be included on some information-sharing between Newell and the ATF Liaison about ATF’s efforts on the Southwest Border, and that O’Reilly eventually communicated with Newell directly.”

    The e-mail exchanges between O’Reilly and Newell occurred between July 2010 and February 2011. In some of those e-mails, O'Reilly said to Newell that he would inform two other White House National Security Staff officials: Dan Restrepo, the senior director for Western Hemisphere; and Greg Gatjanis, director for the Counterterrorism and Counternarcotics, about the Fast and Furious operation.

    After receiving information from Newell, O’Reilly wrote on July 28, 2010: “This is great; very informative. OK to share with Sr. Director Dan Restrepo and CT/CN Director Greg Gatjanis? Would not leave the NSS, I assure you.”

    Newell replied, “Sure, just don’t want ATF HQ to find out since this is what they should be doing (briefing you)!” On Sept. 3, 2010, Newell sent O’Reilly information that said, “You didn’t get this from me,” with information about potential indictments O’Reilly replied,  “They’ll not go beyond Dan and me.”

    The State Department deferred a question about whether O’Reilly would testify before a congressional committee to the White House. The White House had not responded by press time.

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    Obama's Project GunRunner and gun control
    (Date Posted:10/15/2012 10:10 PM)

    Vince Cefalu has been outspoken against ATF practices for years and his whistle-blowing on Fast and Furious "was the final straw." Cefalu was one of the founders of the website CleanUpATF, a virtual platform for complaints about the agency. He was among the first to speak up about Fast and Furious, the failed anti-gunrunning operation that let thousands of guns slip across the U.S.-Mexico border. Weapons from the program were founded at the murder scene of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry.

    An inspector general report on the operation released in September was highly critical of both the ATF and officials at the Justice Department.

    The ATF, though, has previously denied that it was retaliating against Cefalu.

    ATF spokesman Drew Wade confirmed that Cefalu "separated" from the agency on Tuesday, though Wade could not comment further.

    "Because of privacy laws and internal policies, we can't talk about personnel matters," he said.

    Cefalu's first run-in with higher-ups at ATF came when he objected to what he considered to be an illegal wiretap in a 2005 case unrelated to Fast and Furious, which didn't launch until years later in 2009. He also provided material to Congressional committees investigating F and F.


    ATF Whistleblower Vince Cefalu Fired

    By Allan Lengel

    Veteran ATF agent Vince Cefalu, a whistleblower who became a particularly  controversial figure after voicing concern about the failed Operation Fast and Furious, was “unceremoniously” handed his dismissal papers on Tuesday, according his spokesman.

    An ATF official met him at the Denny’s parking lot in South Lake Tahoe, Nevada, near his home, where Cefalu turned in his credentials,  said his spokesman Patrick Crosby, a former spokesman for the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Atlanta, who now has his own public relations firm.

    Crosby said Cefalu was fired for “lack of candor.”  He did not elaborate.

    Cefalu has hired an Atlanta law firm to fight the dismissal.

    Cefalu worked for more than two decades for ATF, often in an undercover capacity in major cases involving motorcycle gangs in California and the Ku Klux Klan in Georgia.

    Wade Drew, a spokesman for ATF, said he could confirm that Cefalu worked for ATF for nearly 25 years and that he was no longer with the agency. But he said ATF does not comment on personnel or disciplinary matters.

    In recent years, Cefalu  has been one of the more publicly vocal critics of ATF management. He claims to have gone through all the proper channels to voice his concerns about ATF management, but all to no avail.

    “I have just been trying to do my job: make good cases, put away the bad guys, keep the our citizens and our agents safe,” he said in a statement after his termination. “ATF management has been bending the rules and breaking the rules. The agents want ATF to be the proud agency it once was, not a place where some managers jeopardize our citizens and our cases. The behavior of ATF management has been speaking for itself with all the transfers, reassignments, resignations. It has been a mess and an embarrassment. That’s not the ATF I have devoted my career and life to, and I do not regret trying to change it.”

    Zahra S. Karinshak, an Atlanta-based attorney from Krevolin & Horst, who represents Cefalu, said in a statement:

    “Vince has tremendous courage. Anyone who infiltrates the KKK and biker gangs to bring them to justice has an incredible sense of dedication. Vince has a team who will fight for him in court as aggressively as he fought violent crime on our streets.”

    ATF had tried firing Cefalu last year. However, he appealed the termination. It became final on Tuesday.


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