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I read a book by James Burke called, 'Connections'.  In it, he goes through the history of mankind and examines how one thing leads to the next and the next and the next and reveals how seemingly unrelated events set into motion complex and unpredictable outcomes.  Everything is, literally, connected in some way if you look closely enough.  It shaped my perception of the world in profound ways drilling into my head that life is not a bunch of random events.  Instead, it's an unimaginably complex chain of events, each one having a nearly unknowable number of unpredictable consequences that last through time.

It doesn't seem to be an exaggeration to say there are a whole lot of people looking around our country and wondering, "What the hell is going on?"  Rioting and looting on campus's, blatant attacks upon free speech, tossing boys into the dumpster fire of 3rd wave feminist ideology and using the results to attack the second amendment.  Endless wars, endless debt, a surveillance state docilely welcomed, massive fraud and waste of tax money by all levels of government, 'trigger warnings', denial of basic biology and even logic.  I'm barely scratching the surface of all the nonsense going on.

Over the last year or so, a professor of psychology in Canada has become a world wide phenomena.  Dr. Jordan Peterson took a public stand against a proposed compelled speech law by the Canadian government and against the human rights tribunal tasked with enforcing said compelled speech. 

It's hard to understate the shit-storm launched against him as a result.  As time has passed, I've watched as he has attempted to ferret out what is going on and how.  In a nutshell, here is what he seems to be putting together.

After WWII, the US and USSR entered into a 'cold war'.  Part of that war, KGB agents entered into the US and Canada and began operations.  The US government was aware of this and assumed the agents were sent to engage in espionage.  That was wrong.  They did perform some traditional espionage, of course, but their main goal was to seed marxist ideology into the educational system.


Senator Joseph McCarthy began his famous witch-hunt in the fifties and that seems to have motivated members of the American Communist and Socialist parties to leave and join the democrats and republicans.  Over the years, the platform of the democrat party began to unabashedly echo the communist manifesto, due to their influence.


The republican platform isn't so brazen but, as we've seen, there is little significant difference between them and the democrats in their real world actions.

Academics and intellectuals have always seemed particularly vulnerable to Marxist ideology.  The influence of the agents of the kgb found fertile ground among them.  The initial result, I think, manifested as the rise of the 1960's radicals.  They, I believe, were the first wave of students taught by the marxism contaminated professors.  Somewhere along the line, the 3rd wave of feminism got on the bandwagon and together, they have taken control of the humanities in the colleges and universities.

Large numbers of the students they taught went on to become public school teachers and administrators, bureaucrats in local, state and federal bureaucracies, and journalists.  

In the 1970's, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn published a book, the Gulag Archipelago, which detailed the lunacy of communism in such a way as to ultimately contribute, in no small part, to the fall of the USSR in 1991.  The book was required reading when I was in high school and it pulled the rug out from under the feet of the adherents of marxism, socialism, fascism and communism in a way that the deaths of tens of millions of people hadn't been able to do. 

The Gulag Archipelago and other works critical of marxism in all its forms appear to have been banished from the lists of required reading in high schools and universities, replaced mainly by works critical of western society, capitalism and white people in general.  I think that should not surprising at all.


Dr. Peterson has named these people, 'post-modern, neo-marxists'.  "Post modernist", because they believe there are no facts. "Neo-Marxist",  because they believe that everything is about power;  oppressor vs. oppressed.  

What we are facing today is roughly two or three generations of people indoctrinated in the marxist world view handed down by those professors in the 1950's.  The STEM fields, however, have been resistant, possibly because of the subject matter.  You can't be an engineer or a doctor and not believe there are facts.

Until Dr. Peterson pulled it all together, who's doing what and how, most of us were just bewildered.  We pointed at (modern)liberals thinking it was them because, well, a lot of their ideas are silly and naive.  (Modern)liberalism/conservatism are symptoms of the disease, not the disease, itself.

If you think about the (modern)liberals/conservatives we've known here, you'll realize most of them were educated in the universities when the 'post-modern, neo-marxists' were first establishing their domination of the humanities.  In other words, the baby boomers were the first wave.

Dr. Peterson has also pointed out that there is no 'grand poo-bah' among the post modernists.  The movement is decentralized and their ideology is nonsensical and emotionally driven, as it would have to be in order to accept identity politics as valid.


That is, near as I figure out, what's going on.  I think Peterson is right.  I've read and watched observations from many other notable figures who seemed to have identified pieces of the puzzle but they didn't manage to
put it all together like Peterson has.

I've read and watched the post modernists actually articulate what they're doing and what their goals are (at least when they are able to articulate that much) and they tend to verify what Peterson has been saying.

I certainly could be wrong but this theory appears to fit and it explains a lot  about what is going on... a cultural war between borg and free men.
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The left in America is founded on the rejection of wisdom. It is possible to be on the left and be kind, honest in business, faithful to one's spouse, etc. But it is not possible to be wise if one subscribes to leftist (as opposed to liberal) ideas.

Last year, Amy Wax, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania Law School, co-authored an opinion piece in the Philadelphia Inquirer with a professor from the University of San Diego School of Law in which they wrote that the "bourgeois culture" and "bourgeois norms" that governed America from the end of World War II until the mid-1960s were good for America, and that their rejection has caused much of the social dysfunction that has characterized this country since the 1960s.

Those values included, in their words: "Get married before you have children and strive to stay married for their sake. Get the education you need for gainful employment, work hard, and avoid idleness. Go the extra mile for your employer or client. Be a patriot, ready to serve the country. Be neighborly, civic-minded, and charitable. Avoid coarse language in public. Be respectful of authority. Eschew substance abuse and crime."

Recognizing those norms as universally beneficial constitutes wisdom. Rejection of them constitutes a rejection of wisdom -- i.e. foolishness.

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There are few people in history, were it possible, I would kill.  Marx is one, keynes another. 

I cannot become so worked up about Keynes.  If we compare how unemployment skyrocketed in 1919/20 but not after 1945 and how the economy crashed in the 30s with it not crashing in 2008/9 Keynes has to take some of the credit.
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Almost all rich countries now have progressive income taxes, universal public education, & laws against child labor..........all things Marx demanded in 1848 in the Communist Manifesto. Ol' Karl ain't all that bad, AK.
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 Not so sure about "Marxists" though..
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Almost all rich countries now have progressive income taxes, universal public education, & laws against child labor..........all things Marx demanded in 1848 in the Communist Manifesto. Ol' Karl ain't all that bad, AK.

Marx is all bad, T.  He put together pseudo-intellectual claptrap that led to the deaths of hundreds of millions of people and world wide destruction that is still occurring at this very moment.
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There are few people in history, were it possible, I would kill.  Marx is one, keynes another. 

I cannot become so worked up about Keynes.  If we compare how unemployment skyrocketed in 1919/20 but not after 1945 and how the economy crashed in the 30s with it not crashing in 2008/9 Keynes has to take some of the credit.

I can only agree that Keynes deserves the credit for the great depression;  how severe it got and how long it lasted.  Without his pernicious ideology, it would have been over likely in less than 2 years.
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Peterson is going after the humanities depts up in Canada, says he aims to reduce enrollment by 75%.  Mr. Haidt is taking another approach in the US.  He's creating a website that ranks universities from best to worst, contacting alumni and giving them the website.


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Now, reasonable people can differ about whether academia, as the ancestral home of white guilt, has been overzealous at micromanaging outcomes. Significant race-based preferences remain widespread, and lawsuits continue to be filed by white and Asian students who feel they bore the brunt of academia’s attempt to realize its vision of a utopian society in which minorities are represented at demographically correct levels. Eyebrows also raise at the way in which black students may be acculturated upon their arrival: ironically, some colleges “ghetto-ize” incoming minorities by creating for them separate advising systems, housing, academic tracks, and even graduation ceremonies. Still, it’s hard to dispute the wholesomeness of the mindset from which such tokens of affirmative action spring.

And yet wholesome is not the word that comes to mind when one assesses the newest wrinkle in academia’s attempt to balance the scales: an all-out, unapologetic assault on ‘whiteness’ itself. Today’s college administrators increasingly frame diversity and inclusion as lessons that must be learned by whites alone—and they’re lessons that too often unfold as interventions that force whites to regard themselves less as full partners in diversity than an obstacle to be overcome so that other constituencies might thrive. (This flows from another favored academic trope, the concept of the zero-sum society, wherein white success necessarily comes at the expense of non-white failure.) Colleges require the injection of units—if not whole introductory courses—on diversity in major subject areas “from physics to forestry,” as the Atlantic put it, and syllabi confirm the prevailing view of whiteness as something of an anachronistic disease that, like cholera, has no place in modern life.

Cont... Is There Room in Diversity For White People?

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Peterson puts it together
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This is an essay about how professors pressure students into towing the line...
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i am on the left but don't hate jordan. he has a keen mind. enjoy hearing his take on things even though i may disagree with what he is saying.
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I doubt you're, 'on the left', Knightly.  "The left" is no longer merely (modern)liberals.

The left is the postmodern neomarxist types and if you were one, you wouldn't know anything about peterson because you wouldn't have listened to a single thing he said.  And you wouldn't read anything that has too many polysyllabic words.


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 i liked him when he was part of a debate. didn't care for him when he gave lectures. don't care for lectures much.
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 i liked him when he was part of a debate. didn't care for him when he gave lectures. don't care for lectures much.

That must have made your time in school and university rather difficult.


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RE:What seems to be happening
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Here is a manifestation outside of universities, of 'what seems to be happening'.  It doesn't matter what your innate talent may be nor how hard you work.  All that matters is the color of your skin.
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