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(Date Posted:12/06/2017 3:12 PM)
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I came across this today, just wanted to share...


As a matter of economic policy, conservatives believe that the people themselves are better at spending their money than the government is. Cutting taxes and regulations drives economic growth. Liberals, meanwhile, believe that the government is the prime, or at least an indispensable, driver of economic growth.

This is why liberals tend to talk about spending on everything from infrastructure to education as an “investment.” The Obama stimulus was sold as an investment that would pay huge dividends, thanks in part to Keynesian “multipliers” — the idea that every dollar of government spending results in more than a dollar in economic growth.

Obamacare, we were told, would reduce the deficit by cutting health-care spending and improving economic growth.Conservatives make similar arguments about tax cuts. Over the weekend, Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell told Fox News that the tax cuts would yield more than enough economic growth to make up for the deficit the bill creates on paper.

On the philosophical side, there’s an even starker conflict of visions. Liberals tend to start from the assumption that the government is entitled to as much revenue as it needs, and so tax cuts amount to giving people money.

Earlier this year, Senator Bernie Sanders proposed a budget that would add at least $21 trillion to the debt over a decade. But when the Senate passed the GOP tax bill, he tweeted, “Historians will look back on Dec. 1, 2017 and conclude this was one of the great robberies in US history because Republicans are looting the Treasury.” For Sanders, letting people keep more of their own money is theft — because it’s really the government’s money.

Conservatives, on the other hand, start from the assumption that money belongs to the people and businesses who earn it. Letting people and businesses keep more of their money isn’t a handout or giveaway, never mind a robbery: It’s fairness.

The ultimate problem is that everyone says they care about the deficit, but few people care about it enough. Democrats think spending is more important than the deficit, and Republicans think cutting taxes is more important. And that’s why the national debt is more than $20 trillion, and growing.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/454375/debt-deficit-debate-matter-partisanship
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RE:Right vs. left: a summation
(Date Posted:12/06/2017 3:32 PM)

The problem with labels are too many people think it's all or nothing re: philosophy. This leads to deadlock. I am a conservative & agreed with few policies of B.O., however I did agree with his bailout of the auto industry. Gasp  for most conservatives.
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RE:Right vs. left: a summation
(Date Posted:12/06/2017 3:46 PM)

You were wrong to support the bail out, though you could not have foreseen the humiliation and fiasco that eventually came from it.

When you have a ethical moral code, it's often a mistake to stray far from it.
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RE:Right vs. left: a summation
(Date Posted:12/06/2017 5:07 PM)

It is wrong to be a slave to principles. Always do what is best, not what is right.
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RE:Right vs. left: a summation
(Date Posted:12/07/2017 8:06 AM)

Why is a code of honor not right and best?
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RE:Right vs. left: a summation
(Date Posted:12/07/2017 8:49 PM)

Depends on circumstance.
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RE:Right vs. left: a summation
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How so?

Wrong is wrong.  

Right can be fuzzy which is why codes of conduct are useful.
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RE:Right vs. left: a summation
(Date Posted:12/08/2017 3:52 PM)

White lies, convenience lies the nuns taught us about. Then of course there is cheating on tests to get ahead, cheating on your taxes because the government cheats you, lots of different things that are not right for you, but are best for you.
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